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Old 18-02-19, 11:55
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Here is the ambo with the 10 stud wheels fitted on the 5 stud front hubs . The spare wheel is seen with 10 stud .
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Old 19-02-19, 02:00
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Like the Lend/Lease Chev using ten stud rear and five stud front hubs, all the wheels had ten holes so as they could be used anywhere on the truck. The retainer ring obscures the other five holes on the front.

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Old 19-02-19, 03:41
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Hi Bob
I have a non driving front axle for a CMP ambulance I think. Its been sitting outside for quite a while but its yours if you want it,
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Old 19-02-19, 03:42
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Default So many hole so few bolts.....

Yes Mike that ambulance is built on a Chev 1940 ( could be 39) Chevrolet civilian chassis....possibly shipped as a chassis cowl...... ten bolts on a 7 1/4 circle..... heart centric ...the center hub was exactly 4.75 inches. The front axle spacer *** is drilled with only 5 holes.... the blank reinforcement plate only has 5 holes....all the rims have 10 holes and can be used on all four corners..... the rear axle/rim uses all 10 holes. That was a standard on the Chev at that time and persisted well after the war on civvy trucks.

The odd piece is the 18 inch two piece rim very similar to the standard 16 and 20 inch CMP rims. I have never seen or heard of an 18 in. CMP rim in Canada but then I have not seen it all........ they must have been made in Australia or even India..... all I know is that the humongous press used at GM did half of the rim in one punch....eventually Kelsey Hayes took over the production and proudly stamped their name and date on the rims. Some were made in England as we accidentally stumbled on one in Canada......

The front axle has a 4 1/4 in. hour glass shaped spacer. It is bolted to the five standard studs on the brake drum and extends the center of the front wheel track to the middle of the dual rear axle...... On the C15 the front spacer is only 2 inches and the rear axle runs on one tire but they remain a few inches off from tracking perfectly even.

Such lend lease civvy axles were around 55 to 58 in. track and considerably narrower than the CMP at slightly over 70 inches.....CMP had a wide stance for that period.

So much to learn about these trucks....... and then I starting thumbing through a FORD MASTER ASSEMBLY CATALOGUE FMA-01 and my mind was blown away by the number of various axles, mainly with R-Zeppa joints, including the early GM axles when Ford was short of their own.... and the special kits available to revert the Ford ? GM axle to a Ford/Ford axle when major services were done.

I can imagine the frustration of the poor mechanic looking for the right axle in a large field covered with crates of spare parts.....

Thanks guys.
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Old 19-02-19, 04:01
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Default Here is a photo of the adapter/extender from the front axle

The small end goes against the brake drum...... parts listed on Ebay about 2 years ago.
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Old 19-02-19, 04:09
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Default haba aa ba ba.... you got what????

Mr Phillips.......................OH you wonderful man....

Would you have a picture of the brake drum end.....? can you tell if it takes the standard 8 bolts CMP rim...?

.....hope I can sleep now.......

....and yes I might ...possibly ...maybe....haaaaaaa .....consider buying it from you.......

Any idea what and where it might have come from?????

Cheers oh yes ....... Cheers
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Old 21-02-19, 02:35
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Hi Bob
The front axle in question takes a standard 16 inch CMP rim to the best of my knowledge. It has a straight hollow tube not the drop type axle in many 4x2 trucks. Many years ago I bought NOS axles from Levys in Toronto, I got two straight front axles this is the one I still have ( could track down the other if you needed it, its a little heavier at th ends) Anyway its yours when the snow melts.
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Old 21-02-19, 03:04
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Default Weather permitting......

Definitely much interested....as you say when the snow melts ..... I will make a run down your way......... even if it has not melted here in Hammond...... and I might be interested in the other one as well once I have seen the first one.

Getting an axle that accepts CMP rims is going to make the rebuild much simpler and cheaper as it becomes a bolt together projects.

Thank you.

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Old 21-02-19, 03:26
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Hi Bob
I have a non driving front axle for a CMP ambulance I think.

The front axle in question takes a standard 16 inch CMP rim to the best of my knowledge. It has a straight hollow tube not the drop type axle in many 4x2 trucks.

Anyway its yours when the snow melts.
Bob
Sounds like an axle from an F602L (or F602S), which were supplied as an ambulance variant.

Bob might need to check the width, as it will be CMP track (70in), and might be too wide for an LRDG truck.

See http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...3&postcount=28
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