Engine manufacturer for M151A2

[rob love]

I took apart 30 M151A2s back in 87. I would sell off complete running powerpacks for $125. Otherwise, I would sell the alternator and the distributor components and make just as much. I still see the odd powerpack show up from somebodies shed for $500.

Re alternate fuel sources, propane is very hard on valves and seats....some engines more than others. I got to experience a lot of that first hand when the military tried to run propane vehicles back in the 80s. It was definitely not the right fuel for this climate, and not the right fuel for multiple users.

[Lynn Eades]

Petrol engines can be duel fueled but like anything, an engine functions better when designed and built for a specific fuel. I remember seeing a new Ford crate engine (D series Ford- English commercial) in the parts department of the local Ford dealership. It was a dedicated gas engine. Likely the valves, guides, maybe the head? and pistons were different. Essentially a diesel engine re speced for LPG.
At one stage here in N.Z. possibly 15 percent of cars on the road had been converted to duel fuel, either CNG or LPG with petrol. It was a whole new industry, which died as quickly as it started.

On the Caterpillar thing. Have they bought Perkins?
When I was working in Kalgoorlie (Australia) We had small diesels that were black and labeled "Perkins" and the yellow ones were labelled "Caterpillar" they were all the same and I was told Cat had bought Perkins?

[Paul Singleton]

When I was working we had sidewalk ploughs with Perkins and Caterpillar diesels. The engines were the same except for some sensors and programming. In 2015 when I was still working Caterpillar wouldn’t sell parts for the Perkins and vice-versa. The dealers were unable to look up the engine model and serial numbers unless they were the licensed dealer for the make. We had the same trouble with Mercedes industrial engines. The on-road dealer couldn’t even read the diagnostic engine codes.

Paul

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Paul Singleton

When I was working we had sidewalk ploughs with Perkins and Caterpillar diesels. The engines were the same except for some sensors and programming. In 2015 when I was still working Caterpillar wouldn’t sell parts for the Perkins and vice-versa. The dealers were unable to look up the engine model and serial numbers unless they were the licensed dealer for the make. We had the same trouble with Mercedes industrial engines. The on-road dealer couldn’t even read the diagnostic engine codes.

Paul

Slightly reorienting the conversation, there is a movement in the US for farm equipment buyers to be able to access the coding that runs their pricey tractors, loaders and combines. The big manufacturers are resisting because they will lose the economic advantage of tying a buyer, who is really not much better than a renter, to their servicing contracts. It sucks, but that is how sophisticated some equipment has become and how competitive is the industry. Hmmm? Does anyone remember the old Belarus and Progress tractors on the Prairies? Simple and rugged beyond belief.

[markcos]

The M151 engine is like the honey badger
It don’t give a shit what you through at it
60-65mile an hour all day long
Lol

https://youtu.be/4r7wHMg5Yjg

Best Jeep engine ever

[charlie fitton]

We had a 151 73 Sigs (Ismalia) DR section that did a lot of runs to Cairo...still it wasn't the favoured truck there.

The engine I've been offered is a wall hanger in a friends shop, and wont be more that beer money. Rad hoses to drive flanges.

Rob - are many parts of this engine compatible with otherm series?

[rob love]

The salvageable stuff is the sending units (oil and water temp), the 60amp alternator (2920-00-909-2483), the coil and cap, and the spark plugs. As well, if the distributor has the electronic ignition, the electronics can be adapted into the M38A1 distributors with a little work. Also, the distributor housing itself can be adapted over for either the M38/M38A1, or for the M37.

The clutch pressure plate is also exchangeable with the M38/M38A1 series.

That is about all I can come up with from the top of my head.