HELP all info about the Fox Armoured car

[dcrfan]

Some very good pictures of Fox in post WW2 service with Portugal at

https://www.facebook.com/media/set?s...type=3&sfns=mo

[dcrfan]

For those who have a Facebook account, the link is to about 30 pictures of Fox used post war by Portuguese Army at home and in Africa.

https://www.facebook.com/45330666813...type=3&theater

Paul

[dcrfan]

I need help. I have been Googling Malayan Emergency armoured vehicles and located this site https://www.legendsofthedragonfly.co...LADgIXY8JHiAC4

While the article describes a Daimler armoured car the two photos clearly show a vehicle much larger with a substantial turret. After examining the photos I 'think' they show a GM Fox as we know that type was used in Malaya post WW2 but I'm not certain.

I think it is because:

- size and body shape
- mudguard shape
- small port/hatch on the turret side
- the raised engineering deck

However I'm not so sure because:

- the spare wheel stowed on the side is not standard Fox stowage
- the zig-zag top of the hull side armour in the second photo
- the front of the turret in photo one appears to be missing any weapon mantlet rather has an opening hatch. Perhaps it has been modified from and armoured car to a scout car which is more in keeping with its Police role

My first two doubts do however match a Humber Armoured Car. What do you think?

Have I just identified yet another type of armoured vehicle that was used in the Emergency

Paul

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

The pics show a checkerboard that is Humber and not Fox. If you send me the evidence you have I can tell you whether it's Fox or Humber,

[dcrfan]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

The pics show a checkerboard that is Humber and not Fox. If you send me the evidence you have I can tell you whether it's Fox or Humber,

I read a statement years ago that the RAF Regt Malaya used Humbers but there was no supporting evidence so my interpretation of two pictures above is all I have. Its slim I agree but I suspect the hull construction in the second photo will be conclusive. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the Humber hull construction to be sure.

Paul

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by dcrfan

I read a statement years ago that the RAF Regt Malaya used Humbers but there was no supporting evidence so my interpretation of two pictures above is all I have. Its slim I agree but I suspect the hull construction in the second photo will be conclusive. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the Humber hull construction to be sure.

Paul

Paul,
The lower photo is quite definitely a Humber, confirmed by a couple of details. The text is very confusing as it mostly refers to a Daimler Dingo scout car apart from the reference to two fuel tanks and a capacity of about 4 times larger.

[chrisgrove]

To confuse the issue still further, it is clear from several of my references concerning the Malayan Emergency that the Humber Scout Car was often referred to as a Dingo.
The real Dingoes often had a turret installed as a local Malayan modification, as the open roof was vulnerable.
Chris