restoration project waterbowser C15A 1943

[Guy Verstrepen]

here on you tube I found a water pump and I think this model of power pump was on the cmp but powered by the pto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_cTEyzu0k

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

here on you tube I found a water pump and I think this model of power pump was on the cmp but powered by the pto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_cTEyzu0k

Any thoughts on how the pump if fitted to the truck? Here's some photos of the British type, as fitted to a Bedford MWC (albeit it used the smaller Mono pump). You will note it runs off a gear-and-chain setup, not directly connected to the PTO. Was the Canadian pump directly connected to the PTO, or geared off it?

Photos are not mine, btw; they were posted on the HMVF site some time ago.

Owen.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Owen Evans

Any thoughts on how the pump if fitted to the truck? Here's some photos of the British type, as fitted to a Bedford MWC (albeit it used the smaller Mono pump). You will note it runs off a gear-and-chain setup, not directly connected to the PTO. Was the Canadian pump directly connected to the PTO, or geared off it?

Photos are not mine, btw; they were posted on the HMVF site some time ago.

Owen.

power pump.

the power pump is a Canadian Fairbanks-morse # 700 typhoon duplex , leather packed piston pump like the one in the movie.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

power pump.

the power pump is a Canadian Fairbanks-morse # 700 typhoon duplex , leather packed piston pump like the one in the movie.

my unfortunate original shortened pto shaft, he is about 10 "too short

some drawings from a manual Dodge T-222
200 GAL waterbowser

normally he will sell the manual to me, there is a wealth of information.

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

my unfortunate original shortened pto shaft, he is about 10 "too short

some drawings from a manual Dodge T-222
200 GAL waterbowser

normally he will sell the manual to me, there is a wealth of information.

Thanks for that Guy.
I just found that manual reprint courtesy of Rob van Meel's webshop; the order is placed!

Owen.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Owen Evans

Thanks for that Guy.
I just found that manual reprint courtesy of Rob van Meel's webshop; the order is placed!

Owen.

Hi owen
it is a very good manual with a lot of information, if he does not sell it I will also get it from Rob.
unfortunately there are no sizes mentioned or large of filters or the like.
greetings Guy

[Guy Verstrepen]

I am very happy today at the further combing of the old garage I found the second runnigboard,
she also served as a shelf under an old workbench,
I also found an old I think Canadian work box with 11 nos English bicycle lamps in their original condition still in the box.
I will post some photos on the forum later

[Guy Verstrepen]

owen

the power pump is driven directly by the pto by means of a cardan shaft.

the pto is switched on by a handle inside the cab.


greetings Guy.

[Guy Verstrepen]

here some pictures of the lever in the cabin. note the tag that is mounted on the handle.

also note that the handle was painted in red

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

here some pictures of the lever in the cabin. note the tag that is mounted on the handle.

also note that the handle was painted in red

Thanks for posting those photos Guy. My Chev is a 4x2, so no transfer case. The pump was driven off a PTO mounted to the side of the transmission. Similar to Richard's MWC setup.

Owen.

[Pete Ashby]

Excellent work Guy I'm following this thread with interest also thank you for posting some very useful photos

Pete

[Guy Verstrepen]

Hey guys.

indeed the p.t.o. departs from the transmission.
see the first 2 images.

on the last 2 images you can see that mistakes are made in the factory too, if you look closely you can see on the floorboard the adjustment where the cut-out for the p.t.o. was first made and later put something aside and the old holes and slip are backed up.

thanks again for your response here and I wish everyone a happy new year.

[Richard.Moys]

Originally Posted by Owen Evans

Any thoughts on how the pump if fitted to the truck? Here's some photos of the British type, as fitted to a Bedford MWC (albeit it used the smaller Mono pump). You will note it runs off a gear-and-chain setup, not directly connected to the PTO. Was the Canadian pump directly connected to the PTO, or geared off it?

Photos are not mine, btw; they were posted on the HMVF site some time ago.

Owen.

The salvaged bits are for my MWC, I will post a couple of photos to show what they look like now in a couple of days.

According to the Bedford/Morris Parts list the Mono Pump is a type SC3

On earlier MWC's the pump was attached to the from bumper and driven directly off the engine. Later variants use a power take off.

(I am also looking for pumps and filters, especially a mono pump)

Cheers
Richard