Mystery wheels

[Lynn Eades]

Yes glen, they taper in. Some of the wide ones have a radiused rebate in the sides. The front ones have lower profile rubber on the front wheels and there were some with no rubber at all (Aust. pat.)also on the front (adjustable) axle.
Also there were some 5 spoke (U section) LP2/2a wheels. Wheel bearings are interchangeable between the two types (northern hemisphere and southern hemisphere carriers)
I was going to suggest you quickly get yourself of to the doctors, but I'm not sure there's a cure for this disease?
A single high dose of lead works, but it's considered very drastic.

[Glen Plumridge]

Oh yeah. Starting to feel the symptoms alright.

The plan of going to look at the pair is on hold till next week now.
The guy with the carriers needs to attend to a family issue this week so I need to hold it together for another week or so.
Maybe I didn't touch enough wood.

Just got to be patient, but I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas.

All the lead I have will be saved for the track plugs I hope to do.

He has a large amount of track laying around but I'm not sure how much of each type as I only have some photos he sent so far and they are not clear enough to pick many details.


Those re treaded ones were square and wider than a track would take because they were used on a heavy trolley I suppose.
Should be able to reshape them if I do get them.

Thanks for the learning.

[Lynn Eades]

You will be able to get them re profiled in a lathe.

[Glen Plumridge]

Next lot of silly questions.
I am sure the manuals would probably tell me this, when I get them, but while I am waiting for that info I have been reading posts here for educational purposes but there is some general info that I have not yet seen discussed in depth.

I understand the ford V8 engine is the same as used in the CMP trucks apart from some sump and minor differences depending on the year but.....

Is the Ford 4 speed gearbox in the carrier the same as the gearbox in the CMP Ford blitz trucks? (Do they operate a separate transfer case to get the 4WD function??) Or is it a separate model of "truck" gearbox that is used in the carrier?

Will the trucks radiator work in the carrier with its more restricted air flow? I know the lower outlets are not in the correct position but is there anything else that prevents the truck radiator from being usable, or is the carrier radiator a specific animal that needs to be sourced?

I am sure I will have other questions as time goes on.

[Tony Smith]

Broadly speaking (particularly for Australian LP Carriers), Yes the gearbox "is the same as used in the CMP trucks apart from some output shaft and minor differences depending on the year"

Ford didn't really have a variety of gearboxes to choose from in the 30's and 40's. There was only one design (actually a Warner Gear design) of 4 speed, but it could be altered for different applications with different input and output shaft arrangements, or external attachments like the rear mounting feet or speedo cable output position. The Carrier of course has a remote gear change, but this just utilises a modified Truck gear lever.

Some of the specific attachments for Carriers though can be hard to find, so unless all the bits come with the carrier, converting a regular Truck box may not be that straightforward.

[Glen Plumridge]

So they are not as straight forward as Jeeps are then.

Is there a resource available anywhere that lists the variations across all of the builders or is it more a matter of experience and discussion with the collective brains trust.

Some of the reference books that seem to be hard to find maybe?


Hoping there is engines and g/boxes with the pair I plan to go see, but just in case, I may be looking for parts before too long.

[Ron Pier]

Apart from the parts list and workshop manual for your particular UC. The other best source of reference and information will be Nigel Watson's books. I guess most of us will have them and there will no doubt be other means to purchase them. http://www.universalcarrierbook.co.uk/

Ron

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Glen Plumridge

So they are not as straight forward as Jeeps are then.

Is there a resource available anywhere that lists the variations across all of the builders?

Well, seeing as Jeep gearboxes were only used in Jeeps, that's not too surprising is it?

Which type of Carrier are you looking at? British UC, Canadian UC , or Australian LP?

There is a repro getting around of the Australian Carrier Parts List that lists the different types of output shafts, muff couplings and gearbox mounts that were used in LP2 and LP2A Carriers, but these weren't specific to an individual maker, they were used across all factories during different periods.