Cross Border Raid

[Matthew P]

So in two weeks I'll be going to The Greater Toronto Train Show (my other hobby is HO scale trains) where I'll be part of the large Free-mo modular layout there.

I've been generous with my time and plan to drive up on Thursday. This will be my first visit to Canada and I'm looking forward to it.

Matt

[Ed Storey]

You won't need your parka (yet), but make sure you have some Loonies and Toonies so you can buy a Timmies.

[Robin Craig]

Matthew what vehicles are you in to?

[Dan Martel]

Originally Posted by Matthew P

This will be my first visit to Canada...

1) Speed limits are metric so '80' isn't 80 mph but 80 kph, or 50 mph.

2) Highway 407 is a tollway. You will be billed for using it, but it's a better ride.

3) A paper dollar with a tam-wearing Scot on it is Canadian Tire money, not real money. Don't take any as change.

4) You'll pay extra for American beer, but it's brewed locally anyway, so try our domestic brands.

5) Our Walmart's aren't as good as yours.

6) Don't try saying 'eh' after every sentence to blend in, you'll just stand out.

7) A serviette is a paper napkin dispensed by fast-food restaurants. (I once asked for a serviette in a Buffalo sandwich shop, and the girl laughed at me.)

8) Our gas is sold by the litre. Remember that 0.22 cents (Cdn) a litre is the same as $1.00 (Cdn) an Imperial Gallon. So $1.32 (Cdn) a litre is the same as $6.00 (Cdn) an Imp Gal. Fill up in Buffalo.

9) If you can possibly avoid it, don't drive in downtown Toronto on a weekday. Take the subway or a cab. (Stay off the highways at rush hour if you can, too.)

10) Don't be afraid to go out at night. It's quite safe.

Cheers,
Dan.

[rob love]

I ended up (in error) on the 407 about 4 months back when I visited ON, and have yet to receive a bill. I'm guessing the beat up license plates we Manitobans use saved me the fees.

Another unique Cdn thing (I believe, but I stand to be corrected) is that we put vinegar on our French fries, despite the fact that the ketchup we put on after the vinegar is mostly vinegar anyway.

[Paul Singleton]

Highway 407 is a nice bypass to miss Toronto traffic but compared to turnpike tolls in the U.S. it is very expensive.

[Chuck Anderson]

Originally Posted by Dan Martel

9) If you can possibly avoid it, don't drive in downtown Toronto on a weekday. Take the subway or a cab. (Stay off the highways at rush hour if you can, too

Toronto has a daily hour dedicated to Rush? AWESOME!

[Dan Martel]

Originally Posted by rob love

Another unique Cdn thing (I believe, but I stand to be corrected) is that we put vinegar on our French fries, despite the fact that the ketchup we put on after the vinegar is mostly vinegar anyway.

Malt vinegar. White vinegar would be considered beyond the Pale.

Cheers,
Dan.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

You won't need your parka (yet), but make sure you have some Loonies and Toonies so you can buy a Timmies.

Stop with the false promises. It snowed in Alberta today.

(Loonies...Timmies…Toonies... Gak. He's going to think we're looney-gooney around here)

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Chuck Anderson

Toronto has a daily hour dedicated to Rush? AWESOME!

Ain't no 'rush' in Trawna's rush hour. Come to think of it there's no 'hour' either. The damn slow to stop on roads in that excuse for a city lasts 24 hours a day.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

I ended up (in error) on the 407 about 4 months back when I visited ON, and have yet to receive a bill. I'm guessing the beat up license plates we Manitobans use saved me the fees.

Another unique Cdn thing (I believe, but I stand to be corrected) is that we put vinegar on our French fries, despite the fact that the ketchup we put on after the vinegar is mostly vinegar anyway.

The Canadian ketchup's tang you love so much comes not from vinegar but from fresh Leamington tomatoes (Leamington being not only the tomato capital of the world but is a mere half hour west of me)...and...from the sweat dripping off the brows of imported Mexican workers who harvest the bounty.

[Matthew P]

Thanks all! Once again the combination of humor and helpfulness that defines your nation shines through! To answer a few questions:

Vehicle wise my interest lay in the myriad welfare vehicles used by philanthropic organizations to support the forces. I like malt vinegar on fries. Not sure where it originated from, but it's something I've done for a long time and some of our eateries have vinegar out for fries. I travel internationally a lot, but don't drive overseas so although I still stumble I'm ahead of many Americans when it comes to using metric. Actually haven't made it to a Tim Horton's yet. I'm all the way down by Washington DC and there aren't any this far south. Some in New England but none close to any routes I've been on.

Matt

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Matthew P

Thanks all! Once again the combination of humor and helpfulness that defines your nation shines through! To answer a few questions:

Vehicle wise my interest lay in the myriad welfare vehicles used by philanthropic organizations to support the forces. I like malt vinegar on fries. Not sure where it originated from, but it's something I've done for a long time and some of our eateries have vinegar out for fries. I travel internationally a lot, but don't drive overseas so although I still stumble I'm ahead of many Americans when it comes to using metric. Actually haven't made it to a Tim Horton's yet. I'm all the way down by Washington DC and there aren't any this far south. Some in New England but none close to any routes I've been on.

Matt

Well, at least you come to Canada forewarned and forearmed. Once you've spent the better part of a half hour in a Timmies lineup for a double-double you'll get the hang of the place. Just FYI, 'snow' is that white stuff that makes you skid off into the ditch.

[Robert Bergeron]

If you head out East you will fall off the face of Canada and land in Québec. That is where «* poutine «* was invented . Never mind the vinegar and ketchup and have the pleasure of trying real fries with curd cheese and gravy . Now that’ s havin a taste of Canada ! Say POUTINE in Québec and nobody will think you are referring to a foreign head of government. Welcome to Canada man.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

If you head out East you will fall off the face of Canada and land in Québec. That is where «* poutine «* was invented . Never mind the vinegar and ketchup and have the pleasure of trying real fries with curd cheese and gravy . Now that’ s havin a taste of Canada ! Say POUTINE in Québec and nobody will think you are referring to a foreign head of government. Welcome to Canada man.

Robert, I think you have it right. If Matthew wants the full Canadian experience he'd skip Toronto and whatever business he has there and go directly to the poutinerie on Route 20 just east of Drummondville. Nobody survives authentic Quebec poutine without wearing a toque and declaring tabernaque.

And if that's not enough, what do you call those pork pies in Quebec City?

[Robert Bergeron]

«* Tourtières «* Bruce . But don’t teach Mattew French swear words please , there are ladies present . That’s what we put ketchup on, not fries. Now that’s from a Qwébécer who has lived the past three years in Edmonton , Comox and Victoria and just pitched his tent in .... Winterpeg [ Winnipeg Manitoba for Mattew] for the duration or until i freeze over. Mathew you must hink we are crazy , cause we are . We are crazy fun and welcoming in Canada .

[rob love]

My quebecois wife and I went to A&W here, and she ordered a poutine. However, she pronounced it with the French accent so it sounded like "pootsin". The guy asked her twice what she wanted, not understanding what the heck she was saying. I finally interjected with "pooteen", which is the correct English Canadian pronunciation.

She was not amused.

[Wayne Hingley]

Originally Posted by rob love

My quebecois wife and I went to A&W here, and she ordered a poutine. However, she pronounced it with the French accent so it sounded like "pootsin". The guy asked her twice what she wanted, not understanding what the heck she was saying. I finally interjected with "pooteen", which is the correct English Canadian pronunciation.

She was not amused.

HAHA... did that result in another dent in your forehead, Rob?

[Robert Bergeron]

I have to agree with Mrs Love . «*poo- teen «* somehow*» does not render the proper description of this French Canadian delicacy. «* Poo*» & «*Teen*» really ? It is risky to venture to change cultural institutions without your wife ´s approuval . Utturly dangerous.

[mel gabel]

Mathew, I will also be at the train show that weekend. Not for the whole weekend, but for some portion, most likely on Saturday. I will try to find you. I'll wear an MVPA hat so maybe you will recognize me first.

[Luke R]

Matthew,
You should up load some photos of the train show and your layout.
I started building a layout once, but MV's soon took over my spare time and money.

[Matthew P]

Mel that's great! I'll probably be in an olive drab shirt that says "Afghanistan Model Railway Club". Alas I believe I'm the only official member. Luke I will try to get some photos fro the gang.

I'll admit to having never tried poutine. I suppose it's as much or more important then Kebabs in Istanbul.

Matt

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Matthew P

I'll admit to having never tried poutine.
Matt

Well, that's fine so long as you right that omission promptly. A wonderous experience awaits you. One word of caution however. Places like Costco sell 'poo-tin' made with frozen french fries smothered in cheese product overlain with industrial grease (a gravy, of sorts). DON'T DO IT!!!! Confirm it's fresh cut fries and legit squeaky cheese curd or walk!!

(Hello. My name is Bruce and I'm a poutine addict)

[Michael R.]

What’s this ‘rush hour’ and ‘Imperial’ gallon business?
Matthew can teach Toronto a thing or two from his Beltway driving experience.
Or crossing the river from Crystal City into DC on the 395.

Imperial gallons and pricey fuel? He likely has ‘dollars’, real dollars that should offset the fuel price disparity.

Welcome to the Big Smoke, Matthew. Mel is good people, take him up on the offer to say hello and do not be afraid to ask for support if you believe one of us locals could assist you.

[Matthew P]

Originally Posted by Michael R.

Matthew can teach Toronto a thing or two from his Beltway driving experience.
Or crossing the river from Crystal City into DC on the 395.

Two years I messed with that! Now I'm out in West Virginia and commute to Virginia a few days a week every other month. The months in between I go experience the traffic in the capitol cities of other nations. I don't miss that traffic at all!

Matt

[Matthew P]

Spent the day today at The Salvation Army archives. Scanned over 60 photos. Simply stunning. I'll be able to add to the welfare vehicles thread in a few weeks once I get to processing.

Found a 160lb tent fly in Malahide for 50cdn on Facebook Marketplace. Unfortunately that's too far out of the way for me to get on my drive home on Monday.

Look forward to seeing you Mel. I'll be in an OD long sleeve t shirt. My module will be on the "American Branch" of the Free-mo layout.

Matt

[Matthew P]

Well I had a grand enough time that I'm coming back first weekend in October! Thanks for all the *advice* last time. I'm hoping to pick up a few items this trip if anyone is selling and is close enough to my route for me to meet up with. Hoping to find British/Commonwealth items for my British Salvation Army Red Shield War Services stationary (for now) canteen.

Looking for:

>Water Jerry Cans
>"Shrimp net" type camo netting
>GS Shovel
>Multipot/thermos urn that is NOT an American Stanley Fray & Clark or Super Chef
>Other useful items I don't realize yet that I want/need

Thanks
Matt