Ontario Museum buys fake German vehicles

[James P]

Lessons learned, drill down on the research (of seller and vehicle(s)) and exercise due diligence when trying to make a purchase via a on line auction, why the buyer did not fly/drive down and actually see the vehicles is perplexing. Interesting bit of expensive drama and I hope the buyer and OntR Museum see some good come out of this mess.

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/...Foundation_Inc

Terry, there was no "post war" Swedish 38t production as they stop building them in March 1944.

[jdmcm]

If the museum doesn't own the vehicles why are they the plaintiff in the court case?

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by jdmcm

If the museum doesn't own the vehicles why are they the plaintiff in the court case?

Joint damages? Not my goat. Not my rodeo. Only a spectator; and the box office sold out of programs.

[James P]

This lawsuit looks like the Ever Ready bunny that just keeps going and going and..................

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/...Foundation_Inc

[James P]

The hard (and expensive) way.

https://www.apnews.com/82da84d96ca54e65839dcf65e9caad4d

[45jim]

That's a big hit. So, now what to do? Is it worth the money and effort to turn these into running pieces for the Ontario Reg't Museum to use in their annual displays?

[Ed Storey]

Who in their right mind would spend 250K on vehicles sight-unseen? I'd be looking for a new Museum President.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Who in their right mind would spend 250K on vehicles sight-unseen?

Well said!

By the way.....how did the bids go that high anyway......I mean, there had to be at least one other bidder that was willing to pay top money for these vehicles, right?......otherwise the price would have been much lower???

Alex

[daninnm]

While I feel for the OntMuseum - the judge had it right - sometimes the words that are missing in a description are as important as the ones that are there....like "original" "WWII battlefield relic" etc.: had those words been used rather than the 'puffery' words ('museum quality,' 'appears to be,' 'great condition,') all would be well with that purchase.
Had there been a single communication where Krause said this is an original vehicle in answer to a question of the same content - Krause would have lost the suit! IF the seller had said 'I don't know' or 'as is' than that must be taken to mean the WORST CASE - not original
This case is the same as the one where someone recently purchase Patton's WC57 Dodge Command Car - not! No good provenance and lots of innuendo that it was ever Patton's; more likely he ever even road in it or that it was on the same continent as Patton!!!!