Wireless Set No. 52 Cdn, Carriers No.4

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Dave, if you need any details or measurements (sufficient for fabricating) just ask. To try and answer a couple of your questions: I think it's unlikely you'll find a loose original, though the principle that once you fabricate a new one an original will pop up usually applies. The shock mounts are similar but not the same as 19 set ones.

The terminal points at the back would take some thinking but are do-able. I say this because I've been looking for knife switches and fuse holders on bakelite for my HUW switch box without luck and have therefore been thinking about fabricating from scratch. The 52 set plugs are not dissimilar.

[David Dunlop]

Thanks for the offer, Bruce. I will keep it in mind.

It would not surprise me in the least if I have actually sat on one for lunch years ago while visiting any one of three popular surplus dealers out this way. All three had loads of 19-Set bits (the main attraction back then) with other wireless items I was not that familiar with. Did pick up an Antennae Tuning Unit from one of them and had it gathering dust in the basement for 10 years or more before learning what it was. One of the joys of the pre-computer era. Then kept it another 10 years before giving it away as the odds of being able to focus on a 52-Set were pretty remote.

David

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Say....I have a spare 52 set ATU here. Not the greatest but it's yours if you want it.

I know what you mean about not knowing and passing things by. I recall seeing an 'odd' 19 set in King Sol's in Toronto years ago (you could only get upstairs when the boss was out and I suspect the guy was taking our cash for 19 set parts and putting it in his pocket). Ho hum at the time, I now know it was an amplified 19 set on its correct carrier.

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Thanks for the offer, Bruce. I will keep it in mind.

It would not surprise me in the least if I have actually sat one one for lunch years ago while visiting any one of three popular surplus dealers out this way. All three had loads of 19-Set bits (the main attraction back then) with other wireless items I was not that familiar with. Did pick up an Antennae Tuning Unit from one of them and had it gathering dust in the basement for 10 years or more before learning what it was. One of the joys of the pre-computer era. Then kept it another 10 years before giving it away as the odds of being able to focus on a 52-Set were pretty remote.

David

[David Dunlop]

That would be great, Bruce. At least this time round when I look at the data plate I will know what the heck it is.

How ‘bout we sort out delivery etc after the holidays? Parcel systems are maxed out right now in any event.

Cheers for now,

David

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

That would be great, Bruce. At least this time round when I look at the data plate I will know what the heck it is.

How ‘bout we sort out delivery etc after the holidays? Parcel systems are maxed out right now in any event.

Cheers for now,

David

...deal...

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

The terminal points at the back would take some thinking but are do-able. I say this because I've been looking for knife switches and fuse holders on bakelite for my HUW switch box without luck and have therefore been thinking about fabricating from scratch. The 52 set plugs are not dissimilar.

On the assumption that the case connectors are the 'receptacle' sort (i.e. the modules that plug in to them have single 'blade' contacts), I've got _some_ of those connectors (bought with a load of other multiway stuff some time ago).

I know I haven't got the 'Receiver' connector because I gave that to a friend who had a remote receiver and no connectors for it.

The connector bodies are all the same, and different contact sets are fitted according to the unit that plugs into them, so it should be easy to modify duplicates to do what you need (or to use them as a pattern for fabricating replacements).

I'll have a quick look later - at least I think I know where these are for a change.

Chris.

[David Dunlop]

Morning, Chris.

Based solely on my observations of a main 52-Set Receiver, I would say the connector plugs on the Transmitter, PSU and Receiver of the 52-Set are all “female”, in that the terminal posts within their plugs are all twin stub clips.

That would suggest the four plug assemblies running along the upper rear of the Carriers No. 4 consist of single stub blades that slide into the clips on the three component plugs when the components are mounted into the Carrier. That would make the four Carrier Plug assemblies “male”.

The other ‘unknown’ I have at the moment is how the wiring between the four plugs on the Carrier No. 4 was actually carried out. Were special loomed cables pre-assembled to make these connections within the conduit running along the back of the Carrier, or, were individual wires used to connect each relevant plug terminal pair?

David

Edit: PS. This is where a copy of a REME Shop Maintenance Manual for the Wireless Set No. 52 would come in real handy, wouldn’t it?

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Morning, Chris.

Based solely on my observations of a main 52-Set Receiver, I would say the connector plugs on the Transmitter, PSU and Receiver of the 52-Set are all “female”, in that the terminal posts within their plugs are all twin stub clips.

That would suggest the four plug assemblies running along the upper rear of the Carriers No. 4 consist of single stub blades that slide into the clips on the three component plugs when the components are mounted into the Carrier. That would make the four Carrier Plug assemblies “male”.

The other ‘unknown’ I have at the moment is how the wiring between the four plugs on the Carrier No. 4 was actually carried out. Were special loomed cables pre-assembled to make these connections within the conduit running along the back of the Carrier, or, were individual wires used to connect each relevant plug terminal pair?

David

Edit: PS. This is where a copy of a REME Shop Maintenance Manual for the Wireless Set No. 52 would come in real handy, wouldn’t it?

Drat! Yes, I've just had a closer look at Wireless for the Warrior Volume 2 and although everything is marked as PL-nn, the removable units clearly say 'Socket' and I misinterpreted the drawing of the connector strip as socket contacts when they look more like blades on closer inspection. Scratch that idea. My connectors are obviously from someone who stripped down the modules and not the outer case.

The interconnect in the case appears to have been done with individual wires, looking in WftW.

The WS19 archive appears to have a complete set of EMERs for the WS52.

Chris.