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Old 16-12-17, 09:41
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I was fascinated by this book when I was given a signed copy some 35 years ago, in my mind it was a fantastic feat, such a thrill to see Half Safe at Corowa, bit of a shock to find out it was yellow!
I always thought the pic of Ben sitting in a shed staring at the stripped jeep summed him up in many ways.

Back a few posts Lang mentions First Overland (by Tim Slessor), coincidentally that was the day we left for the High Country, I came across a copy while looking for some tent time reading material. It appears that I was given a copy in 1991.... time to read it again. Written with some entertaining dry humour (German Autobahn comment springs to mind) it was a delight. In hindsight this trip (32 000miles, 6 blokes, 2 series 1 SWB Landies) was only possible for about 3 years. It was filmed, with the unprocessed film being sent when possible to their contact at the BBC, a young chap by the name of David Attenborought eventually shown in B&W, sound dubbed in. A few years back a documentary with lots of the film (in colour) and interviews with some of the guys was released, Magnificent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS8G-103ZRE
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Old 16-12-17, 10:56
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Richard and Mike

Just finished the new book.

A good read.

The author obviously has limited practical skills and a quite a lot of insignificant errors in this area are in the book. He has no idea of scale or difficulty of undertaking repairs in trying circumstances. Several times he mentions repairs in dramatic circumstances using parts that Ben "just happened to have" or "found in the bottom of a box" or dismisses near-death incidents in a sentence.

That was not his focus, it was a human interest story with some really interesting characters. Ben Carlin was a difficult person who was his own worst enemy as he took not suffering fools to the extreme and had no way to work around people's weaknesses. He stuffed up the book deal by not co-operating and refused to co-operate with the press on a regular basis. He did have a few no-hopers along as crew which made things worse.

Really interesting relationship with Elinore. They were very similar in so many ways (drinking, smoking, partying) but Ben could not have give and take in the relationship. I wonder why she did not leave after the Atlantic but she obviously still had the passion for something. Notoriety, parties ??? Or maybe she just loved him.

The interesting thing about Ben in particular was the way people welcomed them into their homes and offered use of facilities for days, weeks and even months. Often when they returned years later they were welcomed back with open arms. People can put on an act for a short period to achieve some PR aim but not for months on end. They were obviously a welcome addition to the social life of their hosts.

The trip took over Ben's life for more than a decade but when it was finished he took on a successful career in publishing, was very astute in investing and died the equivalent of a millionaire today. His social habits were a bit too much for his extended family and he became more difficult as he got older, dying a pretty lonely bloke trying to reconnect with his lost daughter.

As I said, the author wanted a human interest story and trades on the heavy drinking by both Ben and Elinore, although he minimizes her drinking efforts. The Half Safe trip is almost incidental to the Ben Carlin story and just the connecting thread.

A lot of research and proven evidence but I would dispute some of his conclusions, particularly the black and white statements about why Ben acted as he did from his childhood traumas and other life disappointments. Pretty presumptuous to assume you know what is going on in someones mind, particularly someone you never met.

Buy the book, good read, and a look into the life and times of adventure past.

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Old 16-12-17, 15:24
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Another book relating to the Ben Carlin/Half Safe story is Once a Fool written by an American named Boye De Mente who was recruited by Ben in Japan and crewed with him to Anchorage Alaska.
Not to put too fine a point on it, in this book Ben comes across as deserving the reputation attributed to the infamous Captain Bligh.
Speaking of Bligh, I've just got through reading Rob Mundle's book titled 'Bllgh - Master Mariner. If you are interested in a story of incredible skill, courage, hardship and perseverance this would be difficult to surpass. The survival of Bligh and 17 loyal members of the Bounty crew in a 23 foot open boat they sailed three and a half thousand miles through tropical storms and treacherous waters is an epic of seamanship few could equal.
As has been observed you don't have to be a nice guy to be an achiever and perhaps the opposite temperament can be an advantage in getting things done.
Bligh was a genuine hero and a 'straight shooter'. His character was assassinated whilst he was on the other side of the planet on the king's business. We could sure do with a few more like him and maybe even Ben. As the preacher says in the funeral oration for Cable Hogue, 'He wasn't a really good man, he wasn't a bad man but, he was a man.' That in effect is what Lang is saying. Ben was a man you had to respect even if you didn't like him.

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For those who want to hear the story from the Horse's Mouth:

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Another book relating to the Ben Carlin/Half Safe story is Once a Fool written by an American named Boye De Mente who was recruited by Ben in Japan and crewed with him to Anchorage Alaska.
Not to put too fine a point on it, in this book Ben comes across as deserving the reputation attributed to the infamous Captain Bligh.
Here are some photos of the book "Once a Fool":

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