Info needed: 1967 M38A1 Lubrication?

[rob love]

There are several reasons why the transmission will help rustproof (besides worn seals/yokes and oil leaking through the splines of the shaft and by the pinion nut). One is that there is no seal between the transmission and the transfer case, so if you go up or down a very steep incline you actually transfer oil from one gearbox to another. There is a sealed bearing that can be installed to prevent this, but in the end the oil cant go any higher than the balls of the bearing.

Second is that the bolts between the transmission and transfer case can work loose, then leak oil between the two boxes.

Last, the front seal on the transmission leading to the clutch bellhousing is merely a felt seal rather than a positive rubber lip seal, so it will always seep a little.

But if you think a Jeep is at all bad, go buy any year Chevrolet......

[John Genereux]

Hello to Terry Warmer and Rob Love. I work at 202 workshop in Montreal and have seen and driven the Ceremonial M38 (not very far, just around inside one of our shops). The Jeep actually has CFR plates on it: 32252. I will try to upload 2 pics of it tonight.

[rob love]

Hi John
When I look at the CFR on the EDR viewer, it shows as having been disposed of back in 1982, so I would suggest that it has been retained in a semi-official capacity. The one here in Shilo is held as a museum artifact, but is still called out for military parades on base as well as transporting the base commander (and Juno, the army mascot) during other events.

Neat to see that your vehicles CFR has not been overwritten, and that the Jeep had managed to remain CFR'd from 1953 right until 1982.

The EDR viewer shows it as a 1953 Ford M38. Is the jeep a flat fendered M38 or a M38A1CDN? The serial number given in the EDR almost makes it look like it's a M38A1, as does the year of the CFR. That said, there were a lot of errors transcribed into the computer system from back then. Quite frankly, they may not have been as picky as a collector.

[John Genereux]

Hi Rob,

Here are the pics that I took with my phone:
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According to the data plate, it is an M38A1CDN. I was wondering, were these parade jeeps made specifically at the factory or locally made by craftsmen according to a set of mod instructions?

Cheers!

[rob love]

I think I read about that one in an old EME digest. Wasn't it made for the Queens visit?

If you are interested in some of the issue front turn signals for the Jeep, shoot me an email on the DND intranet system.

The Jeeps were not factory. There was one originally made, and 202 later made a couple out of PCC'd accident Jeeps. I suspect some of the Cdn3 Jeeps (70-71 contract years) were specially modified into Ceremonial Jeeps when they were new. The one in Shilo was from Ottawa, and by what I coudl see on it's unit history, had never left Ottawa. The fitments (things like heater hoses and even the hose clamps) all appeared to be originals to the Jeep from the factory.

[Les Kovacs]

Hi Rob....thanks for the trans/transfer case leak info....again, I changed fluids out of both and spend a considerable amount of time wiping the trans/transfer to see where the leak was coming from....I will take 2-3 drives then look underneath.

I also drove home yesterday about 5-6kms in 32 C temp....lots up hill, got home and waited about 2 min....squeezed upper rad hose....not pressured so I opened up the cap and put a thermometer into the hot fluid.....got about 155 F temp...gauge on dash never went beyond 130-140F.

Its also still puking rad fluid but its still about 2-3 inches above the core....or about 1-2 inches from the top.

PS....is it difficult to replace the oil pan gasket?

Cheers,

les

[Les Kovacs]

I am trying to stop all oil leaks & weeps from the engine on 67 CDN2.
I have a slow oil weep from a screw and rubber gasket on the driver side engine block where a fuel line goes into a fitting with a screw & nut that appears to screw into the exhaust valve cover....can I just keep tightening it until it stops weeping oil? What is this fitting for?

Thanks,

les