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Old 16-07-17, 19:06
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They were purely an Italian invention, after the allies re-equipped the Italian army with the Ws19 in 1944. It's a mixture of the AFV and the truck & ground station kit in a wooden box: the set is on Carrier No.1 but fitted with the variometer seating plate No.4 for the truck & round station (usually seen on Carrier No.3) and the aerial rod exits through the hole in the top of the box.

There is a mention of it in Wireless for the Warrior Volume 2, and the kit stayed in service until sometime in the 1960s.

I've only ever seen Canadian Mk.3 sets used in those boxes, some of the later conversions were re-lettered in Italian.

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Old 16-07-17, 19:53
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Some 20-25 years ago, I helped to unload a (few) container load(s) of WS19 sets in transit chests. I don't know a lot about radio's but they looked like complete sets, ready to use as you describe. They came from Greece and were imported to Holland by a dealer. Back then Gerard Deibel was the specialist working on these sets, I guess he's able to recall what they were exactly.

Back then, I saw so many 19 sets that I lost interest....
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Old 16-07-17, 22:20
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A number of years ago there was a fellow in either Belgium or N.L. that was selling about 6 to 8 containers of radio gear. This included US as well as WS19 stuff. I received the inventory list from him and there were about 120 19 sets. They were in this style of box and I think they were Italian but were demilled with a hammer.

Looking at the ebay ad the meter bezel has been broken and there are no photos of the interior. Caveat Emptor!
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Old 16-07-17, 23:04
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A number of years ago there was a fellow in either Belgium or N.L. that was selling about 6 to 8 containers of radio gear. This included US as well as WS19 stuff. I received the inventory list from him and there were about 120 19 sets. They were in this style of box and I think they were Italian but were demilled with a hammer.
Bruce,

We're talking about the same shipment of radio gear. It was brought in by the Scorpios company in Beuningen, The Netherlands. It was run by father & son Schneider. They also brought in approx. 80 Jeeps from Greece, plus a few dozen GMCs, Dodges, M8 Armoured and Marmon-Herrington Recce Cars.

I recall a Vickers HMG was uncovered in one of the containers, this was thrown in as a gift from the surplus dealer in Greece. That live HMG without any paperwork was an unpleasant surprise for HM Customs and it gave the recipient a few headaches, but in the end the HMG was demilled and all was sorted officially.

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Hanno

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Old 17-07-17, 01:25
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On thinking more about these wooden 19-Set Transit Boxes, I think I may have run across a photograph somewhere on the web a time back of a large number of these items stacked up in a warehouse. Some had the fronts open but most were closed. At the time I thought they were probably British and assumed that explained how one had shown up here in Winnipeg.

I think a company called Sabre Industries had been a huge military surplus dealer in town back then and they had been big players in surplus wireless equipment, so figured they were the local source.

I now see why a lot of 19-Set surplus keeps popping up out of Italy.

David
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Old 17-07-17, 12:16
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Not sure if this is of interest to anyone but there is a No19set wooden case on Ebay at the moment Item No 182670371687
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Old 17-07-17, 12:30
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Colin, I believe that was what the original post for this thread was about.
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