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Old 23-06-17, 20:52
Colin Alford Colin Alford is offline
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Hi Andrew,

In the "Carriers - Minutes of the 4th meeting..." document the only mention of the modification is the section that I copied and posted an image of.

The "Test Report" is a ten page document with text and charts and I am not sure if I can copy it at sufficient resolution to post it here.

My suggestion is to try the link again. You should not need to download a pdf. The link should take you to an online file titled: Canadian Military Headquarters, London : C-5779. The file has 4873 images that are a digitization of a microfilm taken of files held at Library and Archives Canada. If you click on the drop-down "image #" and then scroll to the previously quoted image numbers, you should be able to see the document.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you are unsuccessful and I could copy the entire Test Report and send it to you via email.

If you are successful then you can then have the pleasure of spending far too many hours scrolling through the other associated documents in these files.

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Old 23-06-17, 21:20
andrew honychurch andrew honychurch is offline
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ok, I now seem to have to managed to view the files, as you say there are a lot to get through. I will persevere until I find the article. Good stuff though. well done for finding this. Would be good to have an archive on here perhaps!?
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Old 25-06-17, 09:19
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
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I'd like to know the origin of Andrew's By Pass Valve shown in the first photo of this thread.
What is the date on the valve and the makers name please?

I have seen one of those valves here in N.Z. I have heard there is a T16 here, but not seen one. They are at least very thin on the ground here and am now surprised that it might be a T16 part.

Of more importance to Andrew:

These Valves are each used in a different fashion.
The four port valve is plumbed in, in parallel and it is the pressure differential between the "in" and "out" that caused the valve to open and bypass.
Either way FULL pump pressure (all of the oil)returns to the block to run through the galleries, to lube the engine. Just not necessarily running via the cooler.

In Andrew's carrier the oil is directed at the cooler, but depending on the setting of the valve, and the flow restriction of the cooler, a percentage of the volume is dumped directly to the sump. This may be too much.
The bypass spring in the four port valve is a relatively light spring and is not designed to deal with full engine pressure.

I assume yours has a heavier spring fitted.(than the four port valve) What ever this valve opens at, dictates the maximum oil pressure to the engine. It is in effect an external oil pressure relief valve, down stream from the one in the pump.
If your electric gauge is accurate, its max reading will likely be the opening pressure of that valve.

You might like to see my thread on setting the std U.C. (four port) valve.
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Old 25-06-17, 21:29
andrew honychurch andrew honychurch is offline
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thanks Lynn. As per my other post, I have been concentrating on an ignition problem, now solved so will take a look at the PRV and see if there are some markings on it. Its a while since I applied my mind to the PRV problem since when I have restored 3 other vehicles! I am sure I solved the leak which was really my only concern. The oil coolers are both getting warm so I am sure circulation is fine. I will try to post up tomorrow. I feel we have learnt a lot about the T16 cooler and its pretty evident that Chilwell developed a retro mod to avoid oil coolers and lines failing through cold viscous oil at start up.
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