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Old 31-10-16, 23:39
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The Studebakers delivered to Australia at the end of WW2 were not lend lease.
They were in fact purchased out right and were unassembled in crates.
Most likely at near give away prices.
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Old 31-10-16, 23:57
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Yes that is what the treaty says. The majority of stuff Australia got from USA during the war was paid for on a commercial basis and those Studebakers were in the pipeline referred to in the treaty.

Australia had a vast fleet of trucks and certainly did not need those extra vehicles without a war going on. The reason they just didn't say we will cancel the orders and give you your money back was the USA had to keep their industry going and not have the rug pulled out from under them with a 90% cancellation of all orders overnight. Also why billions of dollars worth of vehicles and equipment were sold, donated, scrapped overseas and not brought back to USA. The treaty even says that Australia can not sell any American goods it possesses to USA buyers for the same reason.

As can be seen from the treaty Australia got relatively small amounts of Lend Lease which was balanced by the goods and services provided to USA by Australia for the million or so personnel who were stationed or passed through here.

The Lend Lease scheme was negotiated (against serious US opposition) when Britain totally ran out of money. Up to that point USA had demanded full payment ie transfer of British gold reserves, to cover all purchases. Even after the British Empire countries had their gold reserves raided to save the motherland the cupboard was bare. It was undoubtedly Churchill's finest hour when he went to USA and schmoozed Roosevelt to support the cause. There is no doubt that Lend Lease, and its extension to Russia particularly, was a war-winning decision.

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Old 02-11-16, 11:10
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The Yanks had various Australian made equipment issued, wireless sets and even radar sets . An article in EA magazine explained how the Aust. built radar sets performed better than the contemporary US sets. The yanks did catch quickly though.

I had a AWA built transmitter with "US signal corps" etched into the front panel . AWA had placed a little panel over the US SC writing, the panel read AWA WS made in Australia .AWA also made copies of the classic HRO receiver for the US army, a guy in California has one of these, he was looking for a manual.

I have a Cash horizontal milling machine, made in Richmond, Melbourne . These were initially made for the USAAC during WW2. Another Cash owner has researched all this.
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Old 02-11-16, 17:06
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The Lend Lease scheme was negotiated (against serious US opposition) when Britain totally ran out of money. Up to that point USA had demanded full payment ie transfer of British gold reserves, to cover all purchases. Even after the British Empire countries had their gold reserves raided to save the motherland the cupboard was bare. It was undoubtedly Churchill's finest hour when he went to USA and schmoozed Roosevelt to support the cause. There is no doubt that Lend Lease, and its extension to Russia particularly, was a war-winning decision.

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It wasn't just Churchill, but a full press of the Royals too. The new king and Queen Mum weren't comfortable out of Europe and weren't sure how they'd be received. Accounts of the day said they found the Americans a funny lot with some peculiar personal and cultural habits, but gracious nonetheless. FDR was no isolationist, which helped greatly.
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Old 02-11-16, 23:40
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If you want to read about the British propaganda campaign to overcome US neutrality and get them into the war you should read "Selling the War" by Nicholas John Cull.

Churchill got his Lend Lease in 1941 without an American war committment so he was dancing in the streets when Pearl Harbour happened. His next successful sell was to have a Europe First policy probably against America's real interests in the Pacific.

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Old 03-11-16, 02:46
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During the later WW2 days, the Americans were pressurising Britain , the US policy was the 'empire' days are over . Colonial territories and mandates were to be given up . FDR was directly cajoling Churchill over this , FDR was very much a anti colonial person.
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That's why America took a mandate over the Marshall Islands, American Samoa, Panama Canal Zone and a number of others???
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