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Old 20-09-16, 01:53
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Friends,

It has been a busy day, a lot of time spent shopping for parts, running from one supplier to the other.

Before doing anything usefull i looked closely at the doghouse that i had installed the other day. That doghouse was a find in a deceased friend's collection . I was fortunate enough to have had access .

I found the original holes and paint ( or absence of ) for the weight data plate on right hand side near my left knee when sitting. So i unsrcrewed the data plate from the former non- original doghouse and put it in it's final resting place back where it was supposed to be. I am very happy and lucky that Rich was very carefull retrieving all the original data plates for this truck . It is a real treat.

In picture 1 we see the doghouse, hard to see where the data plate is, but if you look at the 4 o' clock spoke on the steering wheel ,you barely see a corner.

Then i started tinkering with the air filter element and the spark plugs. Put in a new element and new OEM plugs.

I then went for lunch and did a test drive and experienced a noticeable improvement in performance. Life is good.

After lunch i did the steel screening for the generator compartment.

Third shot the steel screening from afar over the Carrier .

Fourth shot a close up of the screening. I chose a light steel screen compared to what i have seen in the NWM in Ottawa and elsewhere . My idea is it was to prevent stuff from falling overboard when the doors were open not to prevent forced entry by well equiped burglars !

Did the same behind both gen doors . Now i have to reach into the gen compartment from inside the box to operate the Chorehorses. A pain if you want my opinion.

This is my report for today.

No idea yet what i am going to do tomorrow. There is so much left to do ! Restoring this truck is quite an undertaking !



Cheers.
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Old 20-09-16, 02:34
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[QUOTE=Robert Bergeron;229052]
In the second shot a close up of said data plate : Weight 6960 -Not to exceed 8800 lbs. With all that %?&?%$?&! wireless equipment how did they not exceed this ?
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I think you need to consider the possibility that the tag was not original to a wireless truck as the Vehicle Data Book reprinted by Bill Gregg lists the wireless truck as having loaded axle weights
front 4230
rear 6440
for a total of 10670 pounds (curb weight is given as 9780 pounds)
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Old 20-09-16, 02:40
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Grant my friend :

That is why they went for aluminium in 1944 : Horendous weight of the steel box...!

Aluminium is the thing .

Cheers my friend.
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Old 20-09-16, 02:44
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Default Wire 5 C-15A Data Plates

As well, remember that we didn't want to imply to the regulatory authorities that the gross vehicle weight of the vehicle exceeded 4500kg? Hee-hee for the aluminum box!
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Old 20-09-16, 03:33
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Robert.

The screen guards for the Gen Box are a flat diamond pattern. The flat version of the Chev radiator grill. It is in a one inch wide frame, pressed flat over the edges of the screen with 45 degree mitre welded in each corner. It is held in place by four steel pins welded to the frame: two top, two bottom. If you look closely in the upper and lower slots where the screens sit, you will see the holes for the pins. The bottom pins are shorter than the upper pins. You slide the screen in at the top first and then swing the bottom into place and lower it.

Somebody with a surviving example can probably post photos of the details and exact measurements for you.

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Old 20-09-16, 20:29
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Default Data plate.......

Picture reads chassis weight at 4690 pounds and max at 8600 pounds which is the published data for a standard C15a General Service truck with a steel box such as the 2C1.

I would bet donuts to dollars that it is not original to a radio truck with a 2K1 box. We have to remember that engine covers do get changed during the life of a CMP.

I totally agree with Rich that it is easier to fly below the radar when it comes to licensing weight.

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Old 21-09-16, 01:31
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David,

Picture one is for you but unless you point me to a reputable source for me to get that kind of screen , no joy.

I played under the truck today and i am sore all over.

Found the original holes under the steel floor for the battery box brackets .

Installed the battery hold down brackets using the holes i drilled through the plywood floor using the original holes in the steel floor. Picture two and three. It is a tight fit for the battery boxes between the rods.

Found the original holes for the radio operator' s seat bracket . Drillled the plywood floor again from underneath and put in four 3/8 bolts to secure the seat bracket . Picture 4. We see them here but they are not tightened. Still trying to figure out how the seat base is attached to the bracket.

Worked on making a mock up of the Jerrycan holders that go under the rear bottom of the box to come up with some credible measurements to fabricate and weld later a proper unit. Picture 5 .


Bob , we will not discuss gross weight anymore please. It is a nightmare for HMV collectors here. Many thanks my good friend.
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Old 21-09-16, 01:47
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More on the Jerrycan holder.

The steel rods are lined up with the original holes in the box support beams.

Is it not odd that the holder would be that wide just for one Jerrycan on both sides of the box ?


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