A good day at the flea market today!

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by derk derin

There is a photo of the log book in the back of CANADA'S FIGHTING VEHICLES EUROPE 1943-45,page 202,lists it as ARMY BOOK 412.

"I've got you on a four twelve, too."

"A four-twelve? WHAT'S A FOUR-TWELVE?"

"Overacting. Let's go."



Chris.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[rob love]

Derk

If you google Army Book 412 and then look at images, they are out there. One UK dealer offers reprints. Other sites will show you the contents, which is primarily a vehicle log of repairs and transfers.

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id...anguage,E.html

http://www.robvanmeel.nl/?q=content/...ard-cover-1241

[Colin Alford]

Derk,

Dreadnaught wrenches - They were definitely manufactured by Gray (see images)

Instruction Book - The "Instruction Book" series pre-date "Maintenance Manual MB-F1". Does your truck have a "Publications Plate" on the driver's door? If so, it likely lists MB-F1 as the Maintenance Manual and your vehicle was produced after the "Instruction Books" went out of print. I do not know exactly which Ford publication has the code SE-93-A but I think that it is safe to assume that it pre-dates MB-F1 because the Ford publication code SE-93-C appears at the lower left corner of the title page of MB-F1.

Starting Crank - On page 203 of "Ford, Illustrated Army Parts Catalogue, 1940 - 1942" the only vehicle that lists a two piece crank handle is the F8. BB 17036 B Handle - Starting Crank, and 67 17040 Extension - Starting crank. All other vehicles list a single C11Q 17038 Crank Assembly - starting. We both see that Ian Fawbert's list shows a C39Q 17038 - Starting Crank Handle Assembly. My take on this is that aside from F8, A 1 piece crank handle is correct and in 1943 there was a design change to the 1 piece crank handle.

Derk/Rob

Clip, wrench - I too have an NOS Dreadnaught set held together with a red clip. This particular set has the correct size combinations for a Chorehorse tool kit. Similar clips were used for other Gray production. Be careful though, there are different sizes to these clips! I have one that appears to be the same as Rob's picture but it will not fit a CMP stack of wrenches as the "U" shape is too narrow for the width of the largest handle and there is not enough height.

Pick Axes - I personally believe that the only Canadian produced vehicle that should have the British Standard Metal reinforced handle and shallow socket in the head is the Universal Carrier.

My reasoning:
The Carrier part #s
C01UC 100720, Head - Pick (U.K. #JA 0072)
C01UC 100721, Helve - Pick (U.K. #JA-0073)
The Ford CMP part #s
C01Q 17169, Helve - Pick (DND10519)
C01Q 17170 Head - Pick (DND10516)

If these were the same items supplied on Ford vehicles then they should have the same part numbers and certainly a good quantity of other general tools supplied with the carriers had C01Q part numbers.

Also, the Ford Lynx had a pick with the standard Ford C01Q part numbers and attached you will find a period illustration of it (you will also likely note the illustration of the Carrier Walker 925 jack and jack block).

Colin

[derk derin]

Went to the red River vehicle swap meet last weekend and found 4 Champion H-9 spark plugs for my tool kit list.2 were in their original boxes and wrapped in a pamphlet that will display nicely in my spare spark plug tin for the CMP and there were 2 loose ones that will fit into my carrier tool box in the spare spark plug sockets. I also found a Dubl-Hex 15/16'' x 1'' box end wrench.The right combination for the CMP until I get a proper C39Q 17009 wrench to replace it.I also found what looked like a proper 3/16'' x 1/4'' wrench until I got it home and wire brushed it off to find it was the wrong combination!

[derk derin]

I also picked up a nice WWI era stretcher that happened to be Canadian built once I found the brass makers tag.