F15A Trying to Identify

[James Y]

More picture of a KL deck and Truck pulled from Web

[James Y]

Progress currently of the cab.

[rob love]

The letters on the door are PCC which stands for provisional condemnation certificate. Basically it means the army is getting rid of it. I cannot say what the numbers signify after the PCC....perhaps the date of April 17 1959, but it more likely will be the certificate number. I have seen other CMPs with the PCC number on the doors as well as on the cowl like yours.

It does look like it was a KL. The welder on those was very heavy, so the truck would have had a few extra leafs on the back axle. If you make it into a regular cargo truck, you may find the ride a little harsh, but then again none of the CMPs feel like they are gently riding on water.

[Kirk Armitage]

Nice pics, and a great looking truck. My tags are missing on my KL, I was under the impression they left with the missing rht door. I better have a look on the top of my dash for some holes.
Thanks K Armitage

[Grant Bowker]

The standard F15A rear spring pack had 10 leaves, according to the parts list the "Machinery" truck had 12. Are Mach-KL and Mach-1 two descriptions of the same truck or two different configurations?
Before hearing Rob's explanation of PCC, I wondered whether the lettering might have been RCS for Royal Canadian Signals. I still sort of wonder whether they would have gone to the trouble of stenciling the door of a surplus vehicle or would have freehanded it?
Another possibility would be that mix and match happened. Knowing how the wrecker's winch is driven might help clarify this as the only F15A variants come to mind with a power takeoff are tankers. PTO drive from the transfer case would be an addition, two speed case would be a changed part which would suggest that other mixing might have taken place.

[rob love]

Here is a shot I just grabbed off kijiji of another truck with the PCC markings on the door. Jame's truck has it on the cowl. While it seems like a lot of work to do to mark a vehicle before disposal, I can only theorize that whomever writes the directives sits at a desk and does not worry about the amount of time it takes to perform the tasks. As well, the army did worry about getting the best possible prices for the vehicles as salvage (I have documentation attesting to this), so having graffitti over the windows like the LSVW sales would not do. Lastly, soldiers are paid by the year, not by production, and in garrison (generally) have plenty of time on their hands.

Looking at the other PCC number, I suspect it is the certificate number. I have also seen the PCC sprayed on the early release deuces, so the practice stayed around until the 70s. Note this one has a PCC number of 41773, where the other one was 41759. I'll start keeping an eye on other trucks with this marking and see what they have to figure out if there is a meaning to the numbers. Odd that these two from different regions are only 14 apart.

[David Dunlop]

Not to muddy this thread, Rob, but the last M38CDN I owned came out of Kapyong in the early 1970's and had the following stencilled across it's hood:

PCC BMS L 13/71

Nice looking KL, by the way, James. Great looking truck when they are brought back to life, though you might want to hope gas prices stay where they are at the moment when it's all back together!

Cheers,


David