FAT Fast 17 pounder recovery

[Rob Fast]

Can someone tell me when/what era, and on what battledress these were sewn onto top of sleeve above chevrons? Googling Canadian battledress insignia there are very few pics of these on the sleeve. Doing a bunch of sewing on my 3rd AT battledress. Cheers Rob

[maple_leaf_eh]

Isn't that the Master Gunner symbol? The unique badge for completing the Army Technical Warrant Officer Programme.

http://www.rmc.ca/en/applied-militar...litary-science

http://canadiansoldiers.com/ranks/ta...pointments.htm

[Rob Fast]

Many years ago a RCA veteran gave me these, he was a Sergeant RCA on 3.7's on the West Coast. Cheers Rob

[Dan Martel]

Originally Posted by Rob Fast

Can someone tell me when / what era, and on what battledress these were sewn onto top of sleeve above chevrons?

Rob,

In the Artillery, a cannon above the three chevrons indicated whether or not the NCO was a lance or a substantive Sergeant. Three chevrons without a cannon was the insignia for a Lance-Sergeant. With a cannon was a substantive Sergeant. It took the place of the crimson sash which indicated the same in the Infantry.

The Lance-Sergeant was an Army appointment which disappeared on unification (or integration, I get them confused). The use of the cannon with chevrons stopped on the introduction of the new CF uniforms with the integrated rank insignia. All promotions to Sergeant were considered substantive.

Cheers,
Dan.

[Rob Fast]

I think I got this right. Thanks for the input Dan. Can anyone enlighten me on the lanyards in the pic? RCA? Brown and black...tan...and purple. Cheers Rob

[Dan Martel]

Originally Posted by Rob Fast

Can anyone enlighten me on the lanyards in the pic? RCA? Brown and black...tan...and purple.

The light coloured one, which I think you're referring to as tan, is actually white, or was at one time. A white lanyard was a part of the RCA uniform.

The other two lanyards, one brown and black and one purple, were more than likely just for utility sake. For example using one for the knife and one for the whistle. The lanyard for the knife would be looped around a belt or belt loop as the knife was usually kept in your pocket. There were different ways to wear a whistle lanyard, which was usually left to regimental idiosyncrasies. Why the brown and black one is shown over the right shoulder with the white lanyard I have no idea as two lanyards on one shoulder just wasn't done.

I would think that, and this is just a guess, if it was a regimental practice of the 3rd Anti-Tank for senior NCO's and officers to wear a whistle lanyard with their battledress, then it would be worn on the shoulder opposite the one with the white lanyard and would be of a dark hue so as to blend in with the colour of the battledress and not contrast with the white.

On the other hand, if the whistle was connected to the white lanyard then there would be no need for a second one to be worn. It looks like you have some research to do into the regiment.

Cheers,
Dan.

[Rob Fast]

Good turn out, we all ate well. It was Gord's Dingo coming out party. Congrats Gord, your Dingo is a work of art.

[derk derin]

Thanks to you again for hosting the BBQ once again Rob.Always nice to see the progress you and Tony do with your restoration projects.That 17 pounder has come along way since I saw it when it was pulled out of the field years ago.A job well done.Looking forward to the next one!
Regards,Derk (and Dawn!),can't forget the wife!

[Rob Fast]

I will try one more time here...looking for a muzzle brake. I realize this is a tough find, so if it doesn't show up, I am prepared to proceed with casting a replica. Possibly my winter project. Thanks for your consideration. Cheers Rob