Early CMPs in NW Europe

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

I think we forget 1 important thing, in 1944-45 the cab 11 and 12 were only 2 till 3 years old, so almost new, I don't think any army would throw them away for newer cars and remember, only the cabs are different, the mechanical parts are the same.

Hendrik

[Alex van de Wetering]

Cab 12's in Belgium. Avelgem.

The second picture seems to show a row of 3 Cab12 3 Ton trucks.

source: cegesoma.be

[Alex van de Wetering]

First picture was posted by Stefan Leegwater in the F60H thread. A very rare F60H seen in Ommen 1945.

Second and third pictures are screen grabs from a youtube vid on the liberation of Haarlem 1945 (some great footage and vehicles by the way!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOtPL6baJLY

Alex

[Alex van de Wetering]

Cab12 FAT in Leeuwarden 1945. Both pictures seem to show the same vehicle

source: https://historischcentrumleeuwarden.nl/

[David Dunlop]

This blend of old and new was probably not unique to the CMP. Wasn't there quite a mix of old and new model carriers in use, at least two models of DUKW and I don't think the Bantam and slat grilled jeeps disappeared as soon as the later model MB and GPW arrived.

The latest vehicles were probably not as critical an issue as one would encounter with aircraft.

David

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Cab12 FAT in Leeuwarden 1945. Both pictures seem to show the same vehicle

source: https://historischcentrumleeuwarden.nl/

And is it the same one as shown on page 1 of this thread?

H.

[Alex van de Wetering]

And is it the same one as shown on page 1 of this thread?

Hanno; I think it's a different vehicle....the shape of the roofrack and the spare wheel location is different. Of course the wheel could have been relocated, but the top bar of the roofrack attaches to the upper roof panel in one of the pics and on the other FAT the bar attaches to, about halfway, the beetle back.
It could be the second one in the background of the "Groningerstraatweg" picture though......(?)

Alex

[Alex van de Wetering]

30cwt (?) Monkey face Ambulance, Apeldoorn 1945

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLn4WKWFHU

Alex

I don't think any army would throw them away for newer cars

This blend of old and new was probably not unique to the CMP

Hendrik, David, I agree.....even though I have no official documents to back it up. I don't think there was a luxery position to replace ALL cab11/12's with cab13's. Maybe the general rule, yes...but there was a shortage of everything, so I would not be surprised if someone turns up with a document stating that (cab 11/12) trucks are to be properly serviced and maintained.....and are only to be replaced by newer trucks if they are completely worn....frontline units coming first if new trucks are available.(?)

I was reading one of Mike Starmers publications on camouflage paints and he mentions a document stating that (SCC2 Brown) vehicles are only to be fully repainted in the "new" SCC15 Olive Drab if absolutely necessary, due to limited supply of SCC15. Vehicles are to be patched where possible. This could well be the same with replacement trucks (?)