11 Set stuff

[Ron Pier]

Great stuff Chris. I'll PM you my email address for future contact. Ron

[cletrac (RIP)]

I bought some aerial stuff for the 11 set. I didn't get those guy ropes as I already have two sets off the 20 foot telescoping Canadian aerial and they're identical.

[Ron Pier]

That looks like the standard 'Golf Bag' ground station set. Ron

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

That looks like the standard 'Golf Bag' ground station set. Ron

Part of one, anyway. The individual components go back a very long way and changed slightly over time. The canvas bag is "Bags, Aerial Gear, No.2 Mk.2, rods are Aerial Rods 'D', and so on. Chunks of it were still in service in the 1980s (the "Pegs, Aerial, 'A"' used with the guy ropes (which may pre-date Wireless Set No.1) and were still user with the Larkspur 27-ft mast to anchor the flat baseplate. The aerial rods were originally aluminium, but this later changed to steel (copper plated or not).

It has the advantage over the telescopic mast that you can divide the kit into two and make a pair of 12-ft masts to support a wire aerial. It has the disadvantage over the Canadian telescopic mast of being fragile, a pig to erect, and liable to collapse in a heap if one of the guy ropes gets broken.

Chris.

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by cletrac

I bought some aerial stuff for the 11 set. I didn't get those guy ropes as I already have two sets off the 20 foot telescoping Canadian aerial and they're identical.

They normally came with the ebonite B base which screwed onto the spike . The ebonite B base is a black conical shaped base and you will need one

did the smiley face come with the set !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cletrac (RIP)]

I got a few cables today. The ground strap looks like the short one to ground the set. The cable is 44" long and could be an aerial lead but I'm not sure. I have a couple more of them coming so I'll save one for the aerial and use the other two to make up some battery leads. 44" should make it from the aerial condenser on top of the set to the aerial. For battery leads I'd run them down the charging panel mounts and splice them to new wire where they are out of site. Maybe I could rough the new stuff up a bit to look the part.
Those brass thumb nuts look about right except for the colour.
I'm going to have to make another case with 4 inch sides and put the panel mounts farther down in the case. The hardware on the terminals stacks to over 3/4" and the doors will hit them. I'm still wondering about a plastic panel.
It's a learning experience I guess!!!!!

[Ron Pier]

Yes I've got my steel now and gone for 4" sides . I'm waiting for my welding magnet squares to arrive before I continue. Ron

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

Yes I've got my steel now and gone for 4" sides . I'm waiting for my welding magnet squares to arrive before I continue. Ron

I feel rather left out of the proceedings ... maybe I should make one

BTW those door clips look like the 19 set spares box lid clip .

David, that cable looks to be rather heavy gauge for the antenna lead . I think you could use it as starter motor cable to start your C8 !!

Ebay item

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Connector...item2ed5aeb76d

[cletrac (RIP)]

Actually, the cable is pretty close to what's pictured. The wire is a bit under a quarter inch and the insulation is 9/16 inch. They mustn't have trusted their insulation back then LOL
Mike, the one you posted is about the right size to go to the chorehorse.
My picture shows that the cable is the same size as the ones on the Morris. So on the last pic I cut that piece of aerial wire out of the picture (that white rectangle in the upper right) and moved it down to compare with the battery connections. It's the same size!
The wires from the chorehorse are about the same size as the leads from the set.
I now think I'll make the panel out of plastic. I have a piece of 1/4" lexan that I'll use. Once it's painted black it could be a piece of what ever kind of plastic you could imagine! It won't break either.

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by cletrac

I got a few cables today. The ground strap looks like the short one to ground the set. The cable is 44" long and could be an aerial lead but I'm not sure. I have a couple more of them coming so I'll save one for the aerial and use the other two to make up some battery leads. 44" should make it from the aerial condenser on top of the set to the aerial. For battery leads I'd run them down the charging panel mounts and splice them to new wire where they are out of site. Maybe I could rough the new stuff up a bit to look the part.
Those brass thumb nuts look about right except for the colour.
I'm going to have to make another case with 4 inch sides and put the panel mounts farther down in the case. The hardware on the terminals stacks to over 3/4" and the doors will hit them. I'm still wondering about a plastic panel.
It's a learning experience I guess!!!!!

I think that ground strap is for the WS19, and rather later than the 11 set.
The other cable looks like a battery jumper lead for the 6 volt 100 or 170 AH units - either between batteries or battery to charging switchboard/Batten Terminal.

Looking at the manual a bit more, the cable they used was "Cable, Electric, P11" and is still (probably) in use today. It's certainly available as surplus on eBay from "gten98" (the seller name is an interesting joke: Army Form G1098). See:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Multi-Stra...-/111239765644

Niphan plugs turn up at radio rallies occasionally.

The screw-on spade terminals for spring-loaded or screw-up aerial and earth terminals also sometimes appear, and they were still in use until the 1980s at least.

I'm beginning to think that the door clips can best be salvaged from old "Cases, 4 valve. No. 3", but please only scavenge the ones that have already been gutted, since intact ones are needed for the Wireless Set No.18 and 46, etc. The clips are spring brass, riveted on, and will probably be very hard to make without a power press and tooling.

Chris.
(There's a radio rally tomorrow - I will keep my eyes open.)