New Armoured Vehicle in Pickering

[Scott Bentley]

My experience didn't come from sitting behind a desk here in Canada Jim. It started in a Mamba in Yugoslavia and ended in an RG in Kandahar. Regardless, you come off like a bitter retired Corporal.

Anyway, heres my M151A2 parked between two MRAPs that are currently in service along with many others here in Canada.


Good luck to you and your ceramic tiles.

[45jim]

My point exactly, you don't have any experience with armour technology other than driving around in an armoured vehicle. However that total lack of technical experience (or good judgement) didn't stop you from standing on your soapbox pretending its a subject for which you could offer intelligent comment, you just believed everyone here is as ignorant on the subject as you are and you could tout yourself as the sme. I'm sure Justin Trudeau could employ such bullshit in Ottawa.

I also patrolled in Bosnia but not in a well protected Mamba but in a shitty old white painted Cougar with no add-on armour. Doesn't make me unique, thousands of others served there and no, I didn't retire as a corporal but had I what difference would that have made? Your a pretty small man if you think rank is a measure of worth, lots of people promoted two steps beyond their level of competence in any Army. Perhaps that's a soft spot in your case?

Bitter? No, I just don't suffer fools.

Nice 151 though, I guess its not worth anything as it didn't serve in AF better trade it for an Iltis or something.

[cliff]

OK time to stop posting replies like the ones above guys.

CALM down and let the matter drop or I will start deleting posts OK?

Cheers
Cliff

[Perry Kitson]

Not wanting to flog a dead horse, but I just have to get back to some comments about Ontario's nuclear power boondoggle.
OPG has always spent every penny it has made. Outlandish bonuses, ridiculous wages and pay increases compared to the private sector, and my favorite, moving compensation payments. All the while never setting aside a single dollar to pay for the costs of re-tubing or de-commissioning(with the Pickering station slated for shutdown in 2020, costs of de-commissioning are estimated at 20-40 billion dollars, all from the tax payer-still think nuclear energy is cheapest???). They have always relied on the taxpayer to fund what any other business would have to save for. One only needs to read the Ontario Auditor Generals report and you will become instantly suicidal. People being paid between $50,000 and $380,000 to cover moving costs of VOLUNTARY moves, even some that were farther away from the facility they worked at!! Data entry clerks making $40 per hour, when the provincial private sector average is between $14-$18 per hour. As for security, threat assessments have been done on the effects of a tsunami!( at a cost of ??? ). I think I will go find some rope now.

Perry

Oh yes, I am certainly in the "over the top camp"

[chris vickery]

Perry
I work in and around the power utilities sector for one of the largest electrical companies in the world.
I agree that some aspects of OPG seem ludicrous, but wages are on par with every other generating facility I have been at, coast to coast.
If you think OPG pays their nuclear workers too much, you should see what Bruce Power (privately owned and operated) pays theirs ( a fair bit more).
I am not sure why the pay inequity between utilities and the private sector.
In actuality, maybe it is the private sector that are underpaid?
I do know that a lot of time and effort is put into training employees, whose job it is is to put reliable energy into our homes and businesses 24/7.
As an example, the linesman who is hanging out of a bucket truck on Christmas Day in freezing weather so you and your family can enjoy your Holiday. The operators who maintain generation stations year round, on 12hr shift, weekends and holidays so we have heat and light.
Paid too much? I suppose it is relative and depends on where you are looking at it from...

[Perry Kitson]

Chris,
Is that me holding the frying pan or under it???
Don't get me wrong. I am by no means a communist! I don't begrudge anyone making a good living. Every government Ontario has had for the past 3 decades has allowed OPG to run amok. Even the OPG pension fund is heading toward a 2 billion dollar shortfall. Even the Liberal government has realised the folly that is OPG and scrapped plans to build a new nuclear generating station and buy electricity from Quebec instead. As for training, I know people with 2 interprovincial licenses, that's 8 years, (16,000 hours) of training that don't make anywhere near what non skilled workers do at OPG. Our F18 pilots are paid less than health and safety site inspectors with no college or university education. I have done lots of research on this and could go on for pages with examples. But this is not the place for a political debate. I will stop venting now and move on to more calming subjects

cheers, Perry

[B. Harris]

I walk by these types vehicles everyday when I go to work... and people Im glad they are operated by the best trained and equipped folks in the business. If most people knew what is inside and what goes on in the largest nuclear facility in the world (privately owned and operated) this would not even be discussed as a dollar and cents issue.
..............You do the geography..................

Harris