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			Moderator's note: split off from Wanted: Driver Handbooks 
		
		
		
			------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'd be happy to swap notes. I've been doing similar in hopes of finding any info relevant to the F22 or India pattern FAT/FGT. I'm after an FGT drivers handbook If you happen to stumble upon one. I have - first to fifth editions of the instructions on driving, maintenance and repair (aka Special Pattern Vehicles). - Drivers handbooks for F60L, F60L with cold weather supplement, and F15A with tropical supplement - Second ed. of instructions on maintenance and repair of Ford trucks supplied to defence departments of the British Commonwealth (the non CMP models) - The Australian manual that Dave has shown here Not for sale but I'd be happy to scan parts and email them if you're looking for something.  | 
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			I'd be interested to see the cold weather and tropical supplements please Lauren. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Somewhere I have a copy of the FGT handbook which was kindly photocopied at 2x size for me by the owner who also had the complete range from which the Australian handbook was compiled. How do I know that? The pages used for the Australian one are missing from each of his Canadian ones! 
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	Film maker 42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains 42 FGT No9 (Aust) 42 F15 Keith Webb Macleod, Victoria Australia Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern  | 
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			So as not to de-rail the thread I'll just post the cover and an example of how things were cut out, so it is unfortunately incomplete. The cover is not the real colour. 
		
		
		
			
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	Film maker 42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains 42 FGT No9 (Aust) 42 F15 Keith Webb Macleod, Victoria Australia Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern  | 
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			I've start this thread to assist those who are interested in seeing some of the pages of the rarer driver handbooks - both Ford and Chevrolet. 
		
		
		
			Please feel free to jump in and add your own images! Here are a few from the Ford FGT-HB1. 
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	Film maker 42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains 42 FGT No9 (Aust) 42 F15 Keith Webb Macleod, Victoria Australia Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern  | 
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			Fairleads which I'd imagine appear in some of the other books as well. 
		
		
		
			The tyre pic is obviously unique to the FGT 
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	Film maker 42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains 42 FGT No9 (Aust) 42 F15 Keith Webb Macleod, Victoria Australia Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern  | 
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			Keith, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Great idea. Would you happen to have any scans of the Operators Manual for the Ford Lynx Scout Car? It is titled SC-OM1. Thanks, Peter  | 
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			No, sorry Peter, but I'm sure someone will! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I have a couple of copies of the Indian course book, both different so it looks like they were put together for individual courses. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Sadly No mention of the Indian pattern FAT (that I've found anyway), but it does go through a range of other non-CMP vehicles (such as the WOT2). I live in hope of finding one that does mention it.  | 
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			Tell a lie, there may be something here.  I just picked it up again and on the list of vehicles there's 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	C011QF-C291Q Artillery Tractor 4x4 indicating winch fitted, and C119QHF-C291QH Stripped C011QF chassis 4x4 no winch. I'll scan the page in with the supplements.  | 
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			...much needed for my C15a with a transplanted CGT winch and 2 speed T case. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			My basic driver's manual for the C15a had no such information. Cheers Bob C 
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			Bob Carriere....B.T.B C15a Cab 11 Hammond, Ontario Canada Last edited by Bob Carriere; 02-12-14 at 00:44.  | 
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 If anyone knows of another copy for sale or trade, please let me know as it is the last manual I need for my F15A. 
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			Some page from FGT April 1944
		 
		
		
		
			
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	Mariano Paz Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA 1944 Ariel W/NG 1945 FGT FAT  | 
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			Finding the HC1 Driver's Handbook would be like finding the missing link in human evolution.  
		
		
		
			Maybe one day we will find it and we can learn a little more about the last artillery tractor built during ww2 and that never entered combat. 
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			I'm thinking maybe the C is just a typo when it should still be B as the HB stands for Hand Book.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Keith, Tony yours comments have logical sense. But until a copy appears, we wll have the doubt.. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			Gents, 
		
		
		
			It seems that I missed contributing to this discussion almost 3 years ago. There were two series of Driver’s Handbooks: Handbook British (HB), and Handbook Canadian (HC). It would appear that the British Handbooks are far more prevalent. Attached are some supporting images from the design record.  | 
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			Here are some images of C60-HB1, and C60-HC1 I took a few years ago to contribute to a different discussion. 
		
		
		
			With C60-HC1 produced close to a year after C60-HB1, it includes up-to-date info on the latest features/design improvements. The main difference between the two books is the layout. The Handbooks intended for the British have the information laid out to conform to the British “Sixteen Tasks Maintenance Routine”, whereas the Canadian book uses the Canadian Task System (I am not currently near the books to get the proper name). As the Driver’s Handbooks detail mechanical maintenance tasks, FGT-HC1 may not provide much detail on the Gun Tractor body, and may not have been produced late enough to provide info on the last body type. Regards, Colin  | 
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			Hi Colin, thanks for the contribution. Now i know th mean of HC and HB!   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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