C8A HUW: body dimensional data needed

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Jerry

I started making Angle Measurements couple of samples below. They are not as readable as the should be so I'll work on the lighting so that not getting reflection off the scale. Also need to be sure picture is square to the needle.

Measured both my HUP and Pat 13 C60S and it looks like the angle of the windscreen is the same on both.

One thing I noted on the first pass through measuring and figuring out how to make measurements relative to true level. My shop floor is nearly dead level, but the HUP has a slight nose down angle.

The took some preliminary measurements on the front door openings on my HUP not surprisingly they are not identical +/- 1/8 inch.

Window Post Driver Side
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Door Post at Latch on C60S -
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Floor of HUP at Drivers Seat
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Top of Window Post Roof Line
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Measuring across door opening
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I think to make these really useable once the reflection problem is solved I'll post them on my web site with both small image and full resolution click it.


Cheers Phil

[Phil Waterman]

Driver side front door opening
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Left side front door opening
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Left side passenger door opening
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Driver side front door post under dash
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Cheers Phil

[Jerry Hill]

Phil

Thanks for all your helpful gen. The second posting is perfect, but I can't make out the details on the first, if possible can you resend the readings typed out - please.

Jerry

[Jerry Hill]

The dent in the timing case fouling the timing gear has been sorted along with the genny blades and miss-alignment. We just need to straighten out the fan blades and fit to complete the engine repairs. To remove the timing case it was necessary to drop the sump to get at the two bottom keep bolts, which fit thro' the front main bearing caps.

Jerry

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Jerry

If the timing gear has actually been touched by the cover, replacing the timing gear would be a wise investment. With the fibber timing gears it is very easy to break or crack a tooth. I've done it just bumping it while pushing the crankshaft gear on. If it is just a dent in the timing cover with no internal contact you should be OK. But you are wise to plan on pulling the cover.

Will reshoot the photos and also give a chart of angles.

Cheers Phil

[Jerry Hill]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Hi Jerry

If the timing gear has actually been touched by the cover, replacing the timing gear would be a wise investment. With the fibber timing gears it is very easy to break or crack a tooth. I've done it just bumping it while pushing the crankshaft gear on. If it is just a dent in the timing cover with no internal contact you should be OK. But you are wise to plan on pulling the cover.

Will reshoot the photos and also give a chart of angles.

Cheers Phil

Thanks for the info Phil

I didn't study the cam gear, but it is black and stamped GM and looked like grey iron. Could I have been mistaken and was it fibre? The crankshaft gear is steel. If it is fibre, I think I should replace it as it made a light rubbing noise when I ran up the engine for 1 or 2 mins to test. Can you advise on a source. Rex Ward is v. good 'round these parts but his parts are focused on GMC & DUKW .

Much appreciate the upcoming chart of angles and your advise.

Jerry

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Jerry

Here is what the original cam gear look like after 66 years of use in my HUP, looks like black metal but was actually fiber

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Here is the brand new fiber cam gear during engine reassembly "oops", I'll look in the file and see where I got the replacement I know it was easy to get.

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Cheers Phil