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Old 25-08-14, 15:34
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Yeah as best I could without the little gauge tools. I have just re adjusted the shoe spacings by torquing them on at 80ft lbs then backed them off four flats... Cured the stopping issue. Took it on a run to the fuel station 1.5 miles up the road which consists of one left turn one right turn and a roundabout got home and a struggle to turn again.... Drums hot ! Again I am jabbing not dragging the brakes on. Going to pull the hubs now and have a look see.
The tools are easy to make. Cut the basic shapes as shown in the manual. Use a digital caliper to mark the holes to their correct distance and center punch to mark the hole. Driill them out and weld in the appropriate size clevis pins.

I made my first set over 20 years ago, and was just using them a few weeks ago. Best bet is to make two sets. It will save you a couple climbs into the carrier and under the rear plate during set up.
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Old 25-08-14, 15:45
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Rich, make sure the bisectors (actuators) are free to "float" in their slots.
There should be a brass castle nut, split pin and washer on each stud. adjusted properly, this will let the whole brake assy.,find its own "centre" should there be any "out of round" in the drum, as it rotates. (hopefully there's none!)
How are you adjusting your wheel bearings?
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Old 25-08-14, 15:59
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Done that Lynn. Pulled the drums and both clean as a whistle inside and from what I can see (images to follow) the shoes appear to be wearing over majority of the area. First image is of drivers side
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Old 25-08-14, 16:00
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Old 25-08-14, 16:09
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Brakes engaged at 90deg with the extra as leverage onto the drum. I have very little travel on my foot brake before the brakes engage.

I thought maybe the brakes were coming on too close to the cam doing it's bit so to speak... Going to mull it over for a while and get some setting up tools made I reckon
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Old 25-08-14, 16:17
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Brakes engaged at 90deg with the extra as leverage onto the drum. I have very little travel on my foot brake before the brakes engage.

I thought maybe the brakes were coming on too close to the cam doing it's bit so to speak... Going to mull it over for a while and get some setting up tools made I reckon
The brakes are engaged or engaging at 90°? They should only start being engaged at just over 90°.
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Old 25-08-14, 16:19
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They look to have been bloody hot. Fair to say they have been dragging.
Give them a sand with some emery tape (following the curve) and then focus on getting the linkage adjustment sorted (as you said)
I cant remember how much turn of the wheel you have before the brakes start to act, but it's all in the books about how to set it up.
A comparison of the British and Canadian manuals helps with an overall understanding.
keep us posted.
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Old 25-08-14, 16:20
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Cheers folks. Rob they are locked at 90deg. With your comment above I fear I have been dragging a shoe when simply applying the cam to steer .. I think a full re set of the linkages is order of the day... And clean up the shoes. !
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