CMPs - where are they now?

[theo barten]

Originally Posted by Les Freathy

Wrecker with Garwood equipment

Hi Les, is this not a Holmes twin boom that you put on the forum? Also I do not see the spare wheel.
As a modeller I rebuild trucks and wreckers from:

http://www.frituurzorro.nl

our photobooks of re-used WWll soft-skin vehicles

[Hanno Spoelstra]

F30 ACF 255 photographed while forming up for the Bayeux parade in Normandy this year.

[Larry Hayward]

Well there is hope of seeing the old timer at War & Peace Revival then!

[serge]

Hello

I am very interessed by the kind of body used by the first series of FORD F30.
Larry HAYWARD shows a FORD CANADA F30 with a cab number 11 and a body made of wood with a rounded rear wheels arch and expects that this body was build in SOUTHAMPTON. On an other reply , HANNO SPOELSTRA shows and other FORD F30 with the same body but with a cab number 12. Do you think that FORD with cab number 12 owns the same body when sorting out the factory.?

In an other domain , I would like to know the denomination of the body made of steel also with rounded rear wheels arche that is in the book "BLUE PRINT FOR VICTORY.

Thanks for any answer

[Larry Hayward]

Serge,

Here is another photo of the same steel body on a later CMP 12 Cab, which was definitely produced in Canada. However the origin of the wooden bodies on the F30 I photographed is harder to establish; it may be British and also as Hanno has already suggested that the vehicle may have been shipped to the Middle East, then the rear body could have been built locally in Egypt.

[lynx42]

I thought I would start a new thread as there has to be many vehicles out there like this one.



Last Wednesday I picked up a copy of British 'Veteran and Vintage Magazine' Volume 17 Number 10 dated June 1973. Inside the is a report on the Historic Commercial Vehicle Club's "London to Brighton" run held on the 6th May 1973.

This 1940 Chev Cab 12 quad was entered by Mr R.Belsey of Storrington and it is stated to have a body by the Western Steel Corp. Winnipeg. (Listed as an FAT1 in the mag.)

So, where is it now? Is it still in existence?

Regards Rick.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Similar F30 Cab 12, source miliblog.co.uk

Also: where is it now?

This F30 with license plate PFF 503 was for sale on Milweb recently and has found a new owner in the UK - here's hoping he will step forward.

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

A tasty looking F30 Cab 12:

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by serge

In an other domain , I would like to know the denomination of the body made of steel also with rounded rear wheels arche that is in the book "BLUE PRINT FOR VICTORY.

Serge,

As far as I know it is a No. 3C1 body. There's one in Holland and it's body is labelled "type 10 foot QMG No. 3C1".

The one pictured below survives in storage in Norway; another one survives in Belgium.

HTH,
Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Dirk Leegwater

A couple of years ago, seen in CWM, the HUP from Marien Goud.
A great day together with the "Chicken ranch" crew.
Marien Goud is passed away in the early nineties.

Here are pictures of the C8A as found in a barn in the 1980s. I saw this HUP when it was in the garage of Marien Goud in The Netherlands shortly after he recovered it. I think it was found in Belgium and he told me he paid a couple of bottles of jenever (gin) for it.



Marien then fully restored it, and later sold his HUP with some other CMP trucks to the Canadian War Museum.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Back in the 1970's and 1980's there were dozens and dozens of CMP's and carriers owned by dozens of people here in Canada. There are relatively few restored and running today. What happened to them all? I fear the worst.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Back in the 1970's and 1980's there were dozens and dozens of CMP's and carriers owned by dozens of people here in Canada. There are relatively few restored and running today. What happened to them all? I fear the worst.

I recall stories by Brian Gough about a friend called Mel. He used to buy complete CMPs for a couple of hundred dollars, needing putting back on the road and a repaint mostly. He stored them out in the open at his mother’s house.
I wonder if he still has them.

H.

[Brian Gough]

Hi Hanno,

The only CMP left in Mel's collection is his very rare 12 cab Chev 15 cwt water truck which he got directly from its post war service in a rural fire department. It has suffered from outdoor storage and is ready for another restoration.

Brian

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Hello Brian,

Thanks for the update. With Bruce, I am hoping his other CMPs found good homes.

Hanno

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

complete CMPs for a couple of hundred dollars, needing putting back on the road and a repaint mostly.

H.

And brakes and windshields. They ALL needed brakes and windshields!!

[Paul Edwards]

Originally Posted by Les Freathy

15cwt at shornecliffe camp

FUF 50 is now with me undergoing a full restoration. She had been shut away for many years in this barn when we found her

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Paul Edwards

FUF 50 is now with me undergoing a full restoration. She had been shut away for many years in this barn when we found her

Great find Paul, I saw the video of its first drive on FB. Looks like a straightforward project.

H.

[Paul Edwards]

Thank you Hanno she's very sound, just a little rust we will sort.

I'm new to this social media stuff, If I post on FB is that different to here on the web? For instance I've just posted a wanted post on here but will that show up on FB?

Cheers,

Paul

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Paul Edwards

I'm new to this social media stuff, If I post on FB is that different to here on the web? For instance I've just posted a wanted post on here but will that show up on FB?

Hello Paul,

MLU Forum has been around for 20+ years, and although we are very social on here ( ), this is not a social media app like FaceBook, Instagram, Twitter, WHY... I did open an account on FB (https://www.facebook.com/groups/MapleLeafUpForum/) a couple of years ago as someone else wanted to highjack MLU on there and mimick what we are doing here.

But this internet forum and the MLU FB group are two separate things. One can post on both media, or choose to stick on either one as he/she likes.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

See https://www.flickr.com/photos/richar...47093532/page1 for a great series of photos taken during the 1970s to the early 1990s at Duxford Military Vehicle Rallys.

"Where are they now?"

[Larry Hayward]

Guys,

I'm not sure if I added this photo to this site before but I know JPW 931 it is supposedly alive and well in Suffolk but I am not sure who owns it.

From the little I know it has an early steel body, which with a No12 Cab dates it to Canadian production circa 1941.

I'd be interested in details of the body type and when it was produced and the ultimate destination of such vehicles?

Although I have attached a photo of it in use in the Sicily & Italian Campaign, it is still quite a rare vehicle in WW2 photos and of course now in the UK.

Does the L number tell anything or is it made up?

Any info on its history greatly received.

Lastly on the WW2 vehicle in the B&W photo, what is it that appears slightly above the front wheel and behind the front fender that is not present on JPW931?

[Larry Hayward]

Hopefully someone must know who owns it? It may be it is in Suffolk?

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

20-25 years ago I could have listed dozens of CMP projects I knew about. Next to none of them ever resulted in a restored, road-worthy truck. Here (unlike Europe) it seems to be the same few restorers with the same few trucks and not a lot of projects on the go.

Depressing.

And where did all those garage queens end up? I fear the worst.

[Larry Hayward]

Thanks Bruce.

I guess many a CMP has gone to the scrap heap after the deceased owners relatives, got a value off the web using we buy any car sites and took the $50 that was offered!

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Larry Hayward

Thanks Bruce.

I guess many a CMP has gone to the scrap heap after the deceased owners relatives, got a value off the web using we buy any car sites and took the $50 that was offered!

Probably true. Then there's the rule that with current prices (not counting your labour and garage space) it takes ~$20,000 to restore a 60cwt you might get $5000 for from an off roader with evil plans for it.

Don't care. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do because I love this ole sh!t. Kids want to scrap it when I kak...so be it.

[Bob Phillips]

I have need to jump in here because I think Bruce's comments are correct..there is a very small (but enthusiastic) group of collectors in Canada but it costs far more to restore a vehicle than to simply purchase one. At this moment I am aware of a collection of 20+ vehicles that have been sitting for 30 years rusting because no body wanted to pay the asking price for them. The lot is mostly 15 cwt Ford 13 cabs, a couple of 3 tonners and a FAT chassis. They are probably worth $5-600 each for scrap and in the absence of any buyers that is probably where they will end up.

[Larry Hayward]

Ok thanks for your comments but I think I need to move my post to a new thread

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Les Freathy

Now i think this one is or was owned by that well travelled Scotsman Tom Berwick am i correct

Here's another photo of Tom Bewick's F60S LAAT, longs before the LAAT body was replaced by a GMC cargo body. As far as I know he still owns this F60L.

[lynx42]

Originally Posted by Larry Hayward

Lastly on the WW2 vehicle in the B&W photo, what is it that appears slightly above the front wheel and behind the front fender that is not present on JPW931?

That is an easy one to answer. The b&w photo is of a Ford and the colour photos are of a Chev. The round item with the arm requiring identification is the LHF shock absorber not seen on Chevs.
Cheers Rick.