MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Restoration Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-07-14, 14:39
Darrin Wright Darrin Wright is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Albury/Wodonga Victoria
Posts: 606
Default starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel

This was a cold but productive weekend, with cold wet weather blowing in for the weekend and the family off on a scout trip gave me about 6 hours on Saturday and 2-3 hours on Sunday.

The drivers floor plate has been bolted in.

The 1/2" rods from the steering column to the steering cam plate are now in. Had trouble with these rods as I had about 10mm too much thread sticking through the long clevis yokes at the steering cam plate. this resulted in the front pointy bits (tech term) hitting on the protruding thread section. Removed this offending thread and the adjustment will be made at the front clevis yokes, that will make adjustment later much easier. The steering wheel now moves the tube axle from side to side, which will warp the tracks. Gravity is not my friend right now, due to the design and position of the tube axle rollers.

Bought a new tap & die set from the local tool shop, this has allowed me to thread my steering linkage rods (before I had a generous friend who cut the threads for me). I have made the linkage rod in front of the gunners feet and installed the clevis yokes and painted it in undercoat. This rod is 28" from pin to pin.
Recovered and primed the special purpose pin for the accelerator linkage in the front of the hull/drivers compartment.
Have attached a pic of the 2 special pins for the clutch and accelerator linkages in the front of the hull. These 2 pins take the return spring. Accelerator pin is 1/4" and the clutch pin is 7/16" dia.

Modified (shortened the rod from the original parts book listed length) and installed the clutch rod and have commenced adjusting the rods to achieve some sort of clutch pedal. Will have to run the engine to complete adjustments. Installed the NOS spring to the pedal.

Installed the RH guard and installed the elec conduit. This has been wired up from the dash to the headlight mount. The guard is not perfect, it still retains some damage from being in service as this is the period (1942 to 43 in Darwin) that I am restoring the vehicle back too.

Finished tightening the mounting bolts for the exhaust system, this is now finished.

My wife came down to check on me, so taught her how to install a road wheel. This was fitted to the RHR suspension station unit and she fitted and tightened the wheel pin nut. I had to jack up the hull and hammer in the pin.
The hull now sits on the ground on its rear wheels with the front of the hull on jack stands.

There are a few items I am yet to turn my attention too, these are the strip down and rebuild of the bogie suspension units and the panel beating of the left front guard. The wheels are all blasted and painted ready. Also have to wire the vehicle up, but still trying to figure out how they installed the wiring conduit through the centre baulkhead, from engine to dash.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Jun 14 5 009.JPG (67.4 KB, 102 views)
File Type: jpg Jun 14 5 008.JPG (73.6 KB, 100 views)
File Type: jpg Jun 14 5 002.JPG (37.3 KB, 97 views)
File Type: jpg Jun 14 5 005.JPG (63.9 KB, 97 views)
File Type: jpg Jun 14 5 003.JPG (60.7 KB, 97 views)
__________________
1943 Ford GPW Jeep "Follow Me"
1943 MBT trailer
1943 Dodge WC-57 Command Car
1943 Chev C60L Army Cargo Truck
1941 LP2 VR 731 Bren Gun Carrier 3" Mortar Carrying

Under restoration:
1940 LP1 Bren Gun Carrier
194? 1 Ton Trl Ben Hur
1942 C15A with sunshine cabin

MVPA 31338
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-07-14, 12:12
Darrin Wright Darrin Wright is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Albury/Wodonga Victoria
Posts: 606
Default visited the National Archives, Melb office today

Over time I have slowly been conducting research and trying to find out more info on the modifications to convert a BGC into the 3" Mortar Carrying version.
Months ago I emails the AWM if they had drawings AFV (T)1201, 1202, 1207, 1208 & AFV (SK)740, as these are the working drawings for rear echelon Ordnance Wksps to convert a limited number of BGC to provide for the mounting of a 3" Mortar on the engine cover and stowage of bombs and stores in the rear compartment.

They dug around and provided me with some reference material in the Melb office. Well I finally got around to registering with them and booked the files out for this afternoon.

It was interesting looking through the documents and the archive people were very helpful.

The information was not the holy grail, but it did document some of the history of how the modification came about, also found all the information from Met Gas on the production schedules (A & B) for 2 pdr AT and 3" Mortar Carriers. These schedules listed all the manufactures of the parts (pic attached) that were interchangeable between the vehicles and also listed all the Met Gas produced parts.
A common number of parts produced, as listed in these schedules is 210 for single items and 420 for items two of a kind. This leads me to speculate that they were committed to producing at least 210, 2 pdr or 3"Mortar carriers at that time.
These schedules were printed/written on 22 Sept 42.

back to the 3" Mortar, some condensed notes of my findings:
20 Oct 41, Mr Frank Mead writes a letter to the Army suggesting several modifications that he has come up with, from his service in the great war. One idea is to mount a Mortar or Howitzer onto the back of a BGC.
12 Nov 41, Idea declined by the Inventions Board Eastern Comd as the BGC is too light and would be overloaded.
At this point in time, only the Aust LP1 BGC had been produced and was in limited service.

4 to 18 May 42, TPR J. White writes a letter through his chain of command, ref fitting a 3" mortar to a 2 wheeled trailer to allow for better mobility and use of the mortar. In these letters he/they acknowledge that 3" mortars are fitted to BGC.
5 Jun 42, letter declining the 2 wheeled trailer mortar carrier. The Director of Mechanization states that:
Mortar carriers have been received from overseas,
Local made model now being produced.

4 May 42, another letter states that 3" mortars currently being fitted to BGC.

TPR White was posted to 2nd Aust Armoured Brigade, Rec Sqn, AIF at the time of his letters.

Will post pics soon as internet playing up...?
__________________
1943 Ford GPW Jeep "Follow Me"
1943 MBT trailer
1943 Dodge WC-57 Command Car
1943 Chev C60L Army Cargo Truck
1941 LP2 VR 731 Bren Gun Carrier 3" Mortar Carrying

Under restoration:
1940 LP1 Bren Gun Carrier
194? 1 Ton Trl Ben Hur
1942 C15A with sunshine cabin

MVPA 31338
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-07-14, 22:30
Keith Webb's Avatar
Keith Webb Keith Webb is offline
Film maker, CMP addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HIGHTON VIC
Posts: 8,218
Default Research

Good work Darrin, nothing like going to the original sources. Look forward to seeing whatever photos you have.
__________________
Film maker

42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains
42 FGT No9 (Aust)
42 F15
Keith Webb
Macleod, Victoria Australia
Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-07-14, 11:29
Darrin Wright Darrin Wright is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Albury/Wodonga Victoria
Posts: 606
Default schedule pics finally

For some reason when the page loaded the 'manage attachments' button would not load. some of the other icons were MIA as well.

Hopefully these pics will be of use to some, I have high res 3Mb pics of all the pages and letters, so they are readable.
Have had to compress them for this site.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Melb Archives Jul14 043.jpg (58.5 KB, 15 views)
File Type: jpg Melb Archives Jul14 024.JPG (63.4 KB, 93 views)
File Type: jpg Melb Archives Jul14 023.JPG (66.0 KB, 95 views)
File Type: jpg Melb Archives Jul14 025.jpg (94.0 KB, 14 views)
__________________
1943 Ford GPW Jeep "Follow Me"
1943 MBT trailer
1943 Dodge WC-57 Command Car
1943 Chev C60L Army Cargo Truck
1941 LP2 VR 731 Bren Gun Carrier 3" Mortar Carrying

Under restoration:
1940 LP1 Bren Gun Carrier
194? 1 Ton Trl Ben Hur
1942 C15A with sunshine cabin

MVPA 31338
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-07-14, 11:31
Darrin Wright Darrin Wright is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Albury/Wodonga Victoria
Posts: 606
Default 1st vision cover installed

On the weekend I managed to install the first vision cover and glass.
Glued the glass in with an adhesive.

Discovered that the main bolts that sandwich the sections/items together are all different lengths and are all individually drilled and pinned. This makes it interesting when trying to re-assemble and match them back up.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Jul 14 1 002.JPG (55.7 KB, 95 views)
File Type: jpg Jul 14 1 003.JPG (54.7 KB, 97 views)
File Type: jpg Jul 14 1 004.JPG (55.6 KB, 97 views)
__________________
1943 Ford GPW Jeep "Follow Me"
1943 MBT trailer
1943 Dodge WC-57 Command Car
1943 Chev C60L Army Cargo Truck
1941 LP2 VR 731 Bren Gun Carrier 3" Mortar Carrying

Under restoration:
1940 LP1 Bren Gun Carrier
194? 1 Ton Trl Ben Hur
1942 C15A with sunshine cabin

MVPA 31338
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:40.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016