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Old 18-06-14, 00:45
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Default Tractor, 4x4, Anti-Tank, 17-pdr

Lex,

This is an ex-Portee which was rebuilt into a 17-pdr gun tractor. IIRC, W&T 33 features the same photo, stating it was taken in Italy.

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As far as I can tell, all the ones in the UK were rebuilt as "Tractor, 4x4, Anti-Tank, 17-pdr". These were based on the Morris C8 2pdr AT Portee, Morris C8/P S.P. Predictor and Chevrolet 8440 2pdr AT Portee, converted into 17-pdr gun tractors after the portee concept became obsolete. If I recall correctly, the original portee body was modified, rather than an entirely new one was fitted. Read Wheels & Tracks issue no. 33 for the full story and photos.
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Old 18-06-14, 05:42
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The New Zealand Army had a lot of these 12 cab portee's in the middle East and Italy. I too would say that this photo was taken in Italy.

The NZ forces took all these portee's home and made them into GS trucks by rebuilding the rear body.
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Old 18-06-14, 09:21
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Hi all,

Thanks for the quick identifications, it also says "LST 152" on the windscreen of the first truck, so first thought Normandy, but indeed Italy used LST's too.

Nobody mentioned the bikes, they are not clear enough to see, but I lean towards Triumph 3HW's.

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ps, Hanno, will look up the W&T article!
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Old 18-06-14, 09:34
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Fascinating! I never knew they built a CGT based portee. Do we have any pics? I guess it would be much like the Morris...?


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Fascinating! I never knew they built a CGT based portee. Do we have any pics? I guess it would be much like the Morris...?
Tony,

As stated, read Wheels & Tracks issue no. 33 for the full story and photos.

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Old 18-06-14, 12:48
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Here the complete caption of the picture:

"Transport struggling through the surging waters which overrun a division in the Cesena area, October 1944"

Picture IWM NA 19787.

Bart added; "Cesena is in Italy, south of Ravenna and the loaded CGT AT tractor was an ex-AT Portee, note the rearranged canvas cover, obviating the peculiar "two-tier" windscreens, and the H-prefixed WD number"

Scanned the next page, just saw there are 2 more, email me if you want the prev. 2 aswell.



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Old 18-06-14, 19:02
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Thanks very much Lex.
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...and one for sale recently: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...?t=8093&page=7
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