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Old 16-04-14, 06:05
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What about fitting one of the 4 cyl Perkins, like the 4-236?

The other option is to go with a 4.3 litre Isuzu 4BG1 or 4BG1-Turbo engine and leave it coupled to an Isuzu box.

My Mk3 International has a 6BB1 (5.393 litre) coupled to its original Isuzu box with a jack shaft to the Inter transfer box. It was done by Gloucester Shire Council when the truck was in RFS service, so happy to keep that part of its history.

Going to later common rail engines require a bunch of electronic gizmos to run them.

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Old 16-04-14, 10:22
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Toyota 2H diesel fits in allright too . Later 1HZ is a little wide on left side with pump and ancillaries
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Old 16-04-14, 10:49
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Richard may come in here ,but in the UK when we were there a lot of Ford Blitzs had Fordson Diesels fitted, down on top speed but allowed on Rego. Perkins 4/236 or 4/248 have trouble getting the revs and Hp for our conditions [ speed ] and most not designed for automotive use, unlike 3/152[ UK taxi,s ]
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Old 16-04-14, 12:22
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I have 2 blitz trucks with fordson diesels in them. One ford, one chev.
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Old 16-04-14, 12:59
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Not wanting to be too judgemental Lionel......

But anyone on this forum who does this knowingly to a halfway decent Blitz should die of a serious S.T.D. and rot in hell.
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Gees Tony, don't be such a wimp. Tell us what you really think.

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Old 17-04-14, 10:35
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caution tony, with our fuel becoming contaminated with ethanol, we might have to go down this road if we wish to use our trucks. lucky we can fit gas and remain on classic rego. THEY WANT TO GET RID OF old clunkers.
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Old 17-04-14, 21:20
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Richard may come in here ,but in the UK when we were there a lot of Ford Blitzs had Fordson Diesels fitted, down on top speed but allowed on Rego. Perkins 4/236 or 4/248 have trouble getting the revs and Hp for our conditions [ speed ] and most not designed for automotive use, unlike 3/152[ UK taxi,s ]
Hi Bob, you called?
I can remember a company running converted CMP gun tractors with derricks on them for their business of erecting concrete barns. They had Fordson 4D engines in them. Speed was not important in those days, but they would travel the country (England). I have a feeling the Perkins P6 was used by some companies, a bit smaller than a 6.354. An owner of a Chev HUP fitted a Bedford 220 4 cyl diesel some years ago.

Away from CMP/Blitzs, I know someone who put a 6.354 in a Bedford QL, quite a tight fit, then found there was no room for the handbrake lever so an air handbrake had to be devised. A fairground operator in England is still using a Bedford QL powered by a P6.

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Hi Bob, you called?

Away from CMP/Blitzs, I know someone who put a 6.354 in a Bedford QL, quite a tight fit, then found there was no room for the handbrake lever so an air handbrake had to be devised. A fairground operator in England is still using a Bedford QL powered by a P6.

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And would that be the same person, who with help from someone we all know, fitted a NOS RL Bedford transfer-case, imported from England, to the QL as well and discovered at the Finke River, when he engaged four wheel drive for the first time, that the front wheels rotated the opposite way to the rear wheels? (The answer to that problem was to fit a re-coed Blitz transfer-case.)

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And would that be the same person, who with help from someone we all know, fitted a NOS RL Bedford transfer-case, imported from England, to the QL as well and discovered at the Finke River, when he engaged four wheel drive for the first time, that the front wheels rotated the opposite way to the rear wheels? (The answer to that problem was to fit a re-coed Blitz transfer-case.)

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That person we all know had no hand in fitting it, and not Finke river, much further south I seem to recollect.
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Old 18-04-14, 04:25
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That person we all know had no hand in fitting it, and not Finke river, much further south I seem to recollect.

You are quite right, Richard. I think that person did help in obtaining it and shipping it. Could have got the wrong river but the result was still the same.

I did help fit both the 6.354 Perkins, the air brakes and the transfer case but no-one thought that the front shaft turned the wrong way.


I put a GMC 6x6 transfer case into my Chev C60X and had the same problem. That fix was easy, we just pulled the axles and turned the diff assembly around 180 degrees. Problem solved. On the QL you can't turn the diff around so another transfer case from a Blitz was obtained, fitted and new tail shafts made to suit. All good now.

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