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Old 16-03-14, 21:08
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Default Front Fender Fix

I finally felt good enough to visit the barn on Saturday. It was great to see Bob and Grant. Bob had not been feeling well lately, but he made the effort to join us at the barn for a chin wag and then to go to lunch. We sure hope he gets back in to "fighting form" as the glaciers are starting to recede, and spring is just around the corner (although it may be more than a little frozen).

The objects of my attention were the front fenders that fit on the body of the Pilot Model. The upper ends of the fenders were heavily rusted and had to be replaced. A quick zip with a thin bladed grinder wheel took care of the offending rust. Two replacement blanks were then cut out and fitted to the ends of the fenders.

I 'gorilla" welded the blanks from the inside of the fender, and then carefully tack welded the exterior where they joined the fender. After a morning of tacking and grinding, one fender was finished. After lunch, I tackled the other fender. Next step is to fit them to the truck body and test for fit. I am sure that there will be some adjustments made, and after that is done, I will drill the holes and pack them away until our date with the sandblaster this summer.

Pics:

1 - one of the culprits
2 - rust - the enemy!
3 - out with the old
4 - inside view
5 - awaiting fit testing and drilling
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File Type: jpg end start.jpg (49.0 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg bodge job cut off.jpg (44.8 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg tack welds.jpg (63.3 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg unfinished2.jpg (74.8 KB, 10 views)
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Old 11-05-14, 21:35
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Default Final Disassembly

Saturday at the barn was spent removing the two axles from the Pilot Model frame. The weather was rainy in the morning, but sunny and hot in the afternoon. The perfect weather for taking apart a CMP, and for the emergence of the local air forces. Blackflies, gnats and mosquitoes made their debut at the barn on this fine day. Bob was away on family business, and Grant was at work, so the only company I had were the birds and the bugs.

The removal of the spring assemblies from the frame went quite well. The front axle had screw in spring mounting pins, while the rear axle had friction fit spring mounting pins. The pins for the springs were very worn, as would be expected from 70 years plus of use. I then removed the pin assemblies and then propped up the frame. This allowed me to roll the axle assemblies out from beneath the frame.

The springs were liberated from the axle tubes with the help of the air impact wrench and lots of penetrating oils. They were in fair shape with no cracks visible on the individual leafs. The axle tubes were in great shape as one would expect with such a robust design.

The rest of the day was spent preparing a site for another sea container, which should be in place this summer. It will be the Pilot Model's home for the foreseeable future.

Photos:

1 - Front axle off
2 - '45 frame - count the crossmembers to compare with the '42
3 - '42 frame for comparison
4 - '42 rear axle with post war parking brake assemblies
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File Type: jpg 100_0049.jpg (126.2 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg Clarence-Rockland-20140510-00112.jpg (121.8 KB, 15 views)
File Type: jpg Clarence-Rockland-20140510-00115.jpg (122.4 KB, 12 views)
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Old 09-08-14, 21:01
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The front and rear spring assemblies were the focus of my most recent activities. All four springs were disassembled and while there was some wear evident, there were no cracks visible. Some of the individual spring leafs had lost a few degrees of arc, but I don't think that re-arching will be necessary.

Next the shocks were inspected. The two rear shocks had no resistance and the arm rotated from stop to stop with a clunk. The arms on the shocks were different from others I had in stock, so they were salvaged. This involved cutting between the shock arm and the shock body. The arms were then heated by torch and the center stud was punched out. We tried to remove the shock arms with our press, but got no movement whatsoever. The shock arms are pressed on to a finely splined shaft, which has a remarkable amount of surface area that builds up a lot of resistance over the years from use and rust. This left the drastic action of destroying two otherwise non-serviceable shock bodies. We will salvage everything that can be reused, but both bodies are now trash.

Two spare shock bodies had their arms removed and will now serve as replacements for the originals. The arms came off quite easily once a grinder with a thin blade cut down to the splined stud. A few taps with a punch and hammer later, the replacement shocks were put on a shelf to await re-assembly.

The down links were trashed but are being used as samples in our search for single headed links. The links in the back are 13.5 inches from the top of the housing to the end of the threads. The ones in the front are an inch shorter. It has been a fruitless search for replacements thus far, but the guys at Malmberg Trucks in Ottawa are on the case.

The next step was to do a bit of sandblasting to clean up the suspension parts. This went fairly well, but was both hot and exhausting work. The temperature approached 30oC and the dark hood for the sandblasting served to heat things up significantly. Probably a cool day for our Aussie friends, but blistering hot for those of us who live in the Great White North.

After sandblasting, the parts were treated with phosphate spray and left to dry. A few minutes later, they were ready for a quick scuffing and then paint. There will be another small sandblasting session in the near future, and a major industrial level session later this month if things work out. I plan to bring in a local company that has the capability to blast all day long. We have a few frames and loads of parts that we want to prepare for reassembly in the fall.

Photos:

1- Shock arm and stud - note the fine splines
2- Post sandblasting and phosphate treatment
3- New paint
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File Type: jpg phos.jpg (87.9 KB, 17 views)
File Type: jpg paint.jpg (96.2 KB, 14 views)
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Old 25-01-16, 00:31
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Default Chilly Update

The big push today was to refinish/refurbish the Pilot Model components. The overarching priority for me is to get the 45 HUP on the road and safetied before the new Ontario safety standards come into effect this summer. The issue being that the new safety is much more involved and detailed. http://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeature...2JQDJtXcY4V.97 It apparently relies on the mechanic inspecting components and measuring them to compare with the written standard for an individual vehicle. The problem is that there is no written standard for most CMPs. So to avoid future complications, I have been working on the newer HUP during most of the visits to the barn to prepare it for the safety inspection.

When it gets too cold outside - like today, my attention goes back the Pilot Model. The hub refurbishing process is the same as the other HUP hubs but this time I decided to totally take down the hubs to its components. The inner grease cups were removed this time to see how they were fitted. After the studs and spacers were punched out, the cup (a ring, actually that kept grease away from the brake shoes etc...) came off with not too much of a fight. The remnants of a gasket can be seen in the attached photo.

The day was spent cleaning off the gasket and the accumulated dirt, grease, oil and paint from the hubs. This was completed with a wire brush on the angle grinder, some picks, a screwdriver, a scraper and some very potent cleaning fluid. After cleaning, the hubs were treated to a phosphate shower and allowed to dry. Paint was added just before departure this afternoon.

I was going to sandblast the hubs, but this is not the season for that type of fun. The wire brush did a fairly good job, but it was tedious work. Good thing we love this hobby.

Photos:

1 - The spin ring/cup
2 - Ring and hub
3 - First coat of paint
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File Type: jpg Pilot Hub.jpg (88.9 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot Hubs.jpg (126.1 KB, 4 views)
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Old 25-01-16, 01:32
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Default Take your photos

Hi

Having just read the link on the new standards, sounds like a move to get a lot if not all cars over 10 years old off the road, but that's not the topic of this thread.

The point is getting your vehicle past with least hassle, you point out they have nothing to measure your HUP against. But you do have bench mark to measure the quality and in depth nature of your restoration, your photos and the narrative you have posted on MLU. While you are wise to get your vehicle registered prior to the rule changes, I would not be too afraid of the standards.

Keep up the good work and the careful documentation of the restoration process.

Cheers Phil
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Old 13-02-16, 18:41
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Default Wheel hub interior restoration

The inside of the Pilot Model hub includes a grease cup that is designed to prevent grease and other contaminants from spotting or staining the brake mechanism that is covered by the hub. This cup employs a thin gasket to assist it in carrying out its function.

When I removed the cups (or rings if you prefer) the OEM gasket were destroyed having been either glued down or having adhered to the two mating surfaces over its several decades of use. This necessitated making new gaskets. Fortunately, Bob had a roll of paper that he had acquired a few years back that had a similar texture to the original gasket, but also had a finished inside coating. He explained that it was a waterproof membrane and that the paper was used to wrap bundles of map making paper. In any case, it was the perfect replacement for the gaskets.

The cups provided the template for cutting and the bolt holes were a perfect match for the large hole punch that we have at the barn. Two gaskets were knocked out in quick time.
pm gaskets.jpgpm both.jpg

After coating both sides with silicon gel, the gaskets were laid inside the hubs with the cups and the bolts were re-installed.
pm ring cu.jpg

One had to be careful to make sure that the splines on the bolts meshed with the cut outs inside the bolt holes and that all of the bolts threads were similar in direction - as these hubs are side dependant. After a few gentle taps with the hammer and a wooden block, most of the bolts seated nicely. The heads of the bolts secured the cups and gaskets nicely.
pm instal.jpg

The hubs were then turned over and the spacers installed. I used the wheel nuts to press the spacers into place and this also served to seat those bolts that didn't seat previously.
pm spacers.jpg

Next project: the other two hubs.
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Old 24-05-16, 01:22
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Default Pilot Model Update

I got the hubs and brake shoes back from the brake shop. They did a great job of milling down the hubs and in putting new material on the brake shoes. They didn't have to match the linings to the hubs as the fit was great from the start.

This past weekend was nice and warm - perfect for leisurely activities such as sandblasting and painting. Up for treatment were the frame, transmission, and transfer case. The two axles will be done at a later date.

Photos:
1 - Sandblasting pit - bare frame
2 - Frame - painted
3 - Tranny
4 - Transfer case
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File Type: jpg Pilot SB Pit.jpg (231.8 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg pilot frame paint.jpg (243.0 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg pilot tranny.jpg (130.4 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot Txcase.jpg (169.3 KB, 7 views)
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