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Old 04-03-14, 22:13
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Default likely sad news for the Littlefield auction

I was on the phone last night to a fellow from NJ who was out helping with the Littlefield collection.

I asked him about the status of the cannon in some of them.

He said that the BATF had been out there to take stock of what was live. And the word he left me with was that all the vehicles with live guns will have the weapons torch cut to de-mil them before the auction.

He said the auction house is not prepared to become involved int he BATF paperwork to have the guns transferable in any way.

And they won't hold the vehicles after the auction to wait for the DD or class III papers to clear.

Cut them so BATF won't hold up the sale, then hold the auction, collect the money, and go to the next auction.

I could sort of see the issues with Class III, but the breeches and barrels on all the AFVs could be legally registered given the chance.

Damn sad thing.
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Old 05-03-14, 15:30
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Typical waste of good products, they will also see a major decrease in value!!! Also if you read the fine print, payment is to be made within 24 hours after the auction, how in the blank is someone suppose to do that, come back with a suitcase full of cash, most overseas transactions can take days, now they are going to demil per BATF, well that is great, so barrels cut, for no reasons, breeches cut and god knows what else, maybe they will decide to put holes in the armor knowing the fffnnn idiots that are in office now. Ohhh and how stupid it keeps getting, I don't know the last time someone took their 57mm down to the bank and opened it up, or drove their tank and fired live rounds into a crowd.
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Old 05-03-14, 15:54
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But if it saves just one life, it will all be worth it. Thank God somebody is thinking of the children.
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Old 06-03-14, 22:45
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Well it sure wont do much for the value of the vehicles to have them hacked up like that
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Old 06-03-14, 23:21
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Well they will probably torch the barrels, and high pressure areas, destroy the breech blocks and might cut the breech rings. When barrels are 5-10K, breeches 5-10K and breech rings depending on price, this is a pretty good chunk of money if someone wants to make them live again or try and source the correct bits and bobs. We will see.
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Old 07-03-14, 03:20
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Same people doing the auction as last falls sale in Indiana where they dumped vehicles from the old Victory Museum collection they had acquired. They started cutting things up the day before the sale when a few potential buyers said it was very questionable for them to sell some of the items direct with no federal papers. They really didn't advertise the demill so I'd wondered about issues with proxy bidders who submitted based on the on-line photos/descriptions. Would be pretty pissed buying a complete item, prepared to do ATF docs, and then find out they butchered it with a torch.

They have more prep time if they have already made the call to demill so likely items will be described properly when the final catalog is done.
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