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Old 19-01-14, 09:49
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Malcolm,

That looks like serious damage, but for the C1 especially many spares can still be had. Maybe you spend more on the overhaul of the R975 than on a used diesel (ugh!), but you will save a lot in not having to convert the Sexton for the other engine to fit in. You will need to make engine mounts, cooling system, and change fire wall, prop shaft, fuel system etc. etc. - this is a huge job!

If I were you I would try to source the parts for the radial and find an aircraft / engine mechanics school and ask them to do the overhaul as a teaching project. I'm sure the students will like the ride in the Sexton afterwards!

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Old 19-01-14, 19:15
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It might also be worth checking the aviation market for a complete engine that has reached the point of being too expensive to rebuilt for flight purposes, but will spec out just fine for a land vehicle.


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Old 19-01-14, 19:18
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I would recommend you talk to Carl Brown of C&C Military in England, great guy to deal with and tons of radial and Sexton experience and probably parts, if not complete engines. Hanno is right, converting to a liquid cooled diesel would be on par with simply replacing the radial. You could also try Andy Sanclamente at Northeast Military Vehicle Services near Boston, another great guy with lots of radial experience. I am pretty sure he is not currently doing restorations or rebuilds but he would still know where to find what you will need.

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Old 19-01-14, 21:08
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Bob Phillips, and Staman Trading had lots of parts for the C1's. Radial parts in general are getting hard to purchase (notice I said "purchase", there are parts out there, but collectors have been stocking up).
Converting to a more modern engine is doable. About the only diesel that will fit (and give you decent power) without modifying the hull is a 6V53 Detroit, about 300 HP with a turbo. You can use the original drive shaft, rear engine mounts, and clutch linkage. You will need a custom built rad, custom front engine mount, electric fans, No. 2 bell housing, flywheel, clutch and numerous linkages built. This will all fit in quite nicely, but will require many hours of machining and fabricating
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Old 20-01-14, 03:14
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So I sense some disapproval of the diesel swap. It's not our choice either, but I understand funds are a bit limited for what may be a $10-15,000 repair based on some prices presently on the North East Military site (and $23,000 for a C4 engine).

We have spare Detroit diesels here (although I need to confirm if any are 6V53's, Perry) and it sounds like a very interesting project to me. I really enjoy the design/fabrication stuff.

Anyway, I am working full time at a "real" job right now, but retiring in April so I will have more time then to follow up on the leads you all gave me above. In the meantime, we will continue dismantling to find out the full extent of the damage.
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Old 20-01-14, 21:42
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So I sense some disapproval of the diesel swap. It's not our choice either, but I understand funds are a bit limited for what may be a $10-15,000 repair based on some prices presently on the North East Military site (and $23,000 for a C4 engine).

We have spare Detroit diesels here (although I need to confirm if any are 6V53's, Perry) and it sounds like a very interesting project to me. I really enjoy the design/fabrication stuff.

Anyway, I am working full time at a "real" job right now, but retiring in April so I will have more time then to follow up on the leads you all gave me above. In the meantime, we will continue dismantling to find out the full extent of the damage.
Malcolm,

It's not so much disapproval, we're just trying to change your mind.... Seriously, for a museum piece I believe one should try to keep it in it's original configuration. Frankly, the fact that you enjoy the design/fabrication stuff cannot be a decisive factor in the decision to fit it with a diesel. Unless the Sexton is your own, that is - you could even paint it pink
I think there are several options to repair or replace the radial nearer to the museum than having to go to the US or UK - please ask Cliff to check his PMs.

Good luck with your endeavours and I hope you get this Sexton running again.

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Old 20-01-14, 22:08
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I hope to come get it, I do not write very well the English, when there is no money for major repairs and always a problem and I appreciate the honesty, and I think a diesel is really the last cartridge to shoot the tank in question it is a important part of history, give an example, it's like putting on a ferrari GTO of 1956, the engine of a alfaromeo , lose all the historical and monetary value
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Old 20-01-14, 22:55
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Hi Malcolm

You might want to touch base with the Wright Museum in Wolfboro, NH http://www.wrightmuseum.org/. They have had the misfortune of blowing the radial in their Sherman twice. They may be able to provide some information and what to avoid. They have a complete Ford GAA they could put in but want to keep the correct radial. In there search for parts maybe they have come across the parts your engine needs.

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