Cfr 70-08889

[chris vickery]

Hi Jon
The interesting part to me about MVS is trying to decipher the riddles often posed by the addition or deletion of certain items over their lifespan.
From what I have gathered in my studies of the M38A1, is that they were used over a vast span of time, transferred, bastardized etc.
My 1970 shows signs for example of having the fire extinguisher mounted in both locations, once between the seats and once on the dashboard...
This 1971 I have picked up has its mysteries, perhaps once Scott gets back to me with the CFR info some will be solved.
My 1970 was proven to be an ex militia 1Hussars recce jeep before it ended life in the motor pool at CFB Borden prior to disposal. It is undergoing restoration back to its former glory.
Sadly, I think the 1971 will be relegated to parts only as its pretty tough...

[Ed Storey]

Chris:

What are the serial numbers of your two M38A1CDN3s?

ED

[rob love]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

Hi Jon

My 1970 shows signs for example of having the fire extinguisher mounted in both locations, once between the seats and once on the dashboard...

All (or the majority of) the M38A1 CDN2 and CDN3 should have evidence of the mount in both locations. It was a required modification (CF011) to relocate the extinguisher mount so the smg bracket could go there.


The dash is a very unlikely place for the call sign......usually the OC Adm knows his call sign. Can't say that I have ever seen a call sign on the dash. When it comes to jeeps, usually on the corners of the cowl, or under the doors.

I think that during the changeover from the C42 to the 524 sets, the radio switched sides. This can explain why it would appear to have had dual IKEE. Or, it may have had dual IKEE.....hard to tell.

[chris vickery]

Hi Rob
As always, appreciate the insight.
What I think is unusual is the fact that the CFR is clearly stencilled on the dash in white numbers as per usual and then there is another set of stencilled numbers above the grab bar, 89, in the same milspec font. Doesn't make sense to me other than my assumption that perhaps it was the call sign?
I have not seen this on any other m series jeeps. Do not think it is a bubba add on as this jeep is a typical example of what happens to milsurp vehicles. Buy it, drive into the ground and abandon.

[rob love]

Post a picture and perhaps we can make a better determination.

[chris vickery]

Ed, the serial numbers of my CDN3s are 100071 (CFR 70-08669) and 99881
(CFR 70-08889)

[302Trooper]

Chris,

89 in the Armoured world is the (OC) Officer Commanding (HQ SQN)Headquarters Squadron- B Echelon C/S 8. Hope this helps you.

I still cannot find any info from the Windsor Regiment on my CDN 3 which served its whole career there. Glad to see another jeep saved.

Dave

[chris vickery]

Thanks Dave
Maybe once we see the info for the CFR maybe it will make more sense.
This particular unit has the side mount for the gpmg which I believe was a stop gap measure for militia jeeps. The Elgin or Windsor Regts were armoured militia units, no?