Pre-war 15cwt trucks

[servicepub (RIP)]

I agree. Although Jiffy identifies it as an early Ford prototype I disagree. Insofar as the body is concerned, bot Ford and GM obtained their bodies from the same manufacturer, and Ford continued these features the following year, this body is missing some features of that body.
I also don't like the placement of the headlights. too bad we can't make out if it is left- or right-hand drive.
Clive

[Bob Carriere]

vvvv....blah using a new wireless key board...and it's weird....

Headlights are old style but not but not CMP bucket style. They pretty wellhave to be mounted on the engine cover as the fenders are motorcycle style.

If the underside is correct there is no room for a T-case or a driven front axle..... frame seems very thin....... front bumper has a civilian spring type look with tow hooks mounted on top like modern 4x4....

Wheel bolt pattern look similar...8 bolts to a CMP..... hood has a radiator cap similar to later Fords.

I can"t beleive someone would drive this truck with no side support on the seat or any restraining straps for the driver-passenger.

Strange drop side box...... when open it will hit or sit on the rear fenders at 90 degrees....

...Would someone be intrerested in a new Logitech French keyboard ......cheap.

Cheers

[Dianaa]

When you turn the image to negative it does seem that the column is behind everything else.

At least the hand brake is to the right of the gear stick so I would hesitate its LHD.

[Tony Smith]

There is a shadow of an external rear vision mirror on the left hand side (but no mirror on the right side), so I would say it's LHD. All Ford trucks of the 30's and 40's had the handbrake lever mounted to the right side of the gearbox. Engine cowl looks too short to house a straight six and radiator.

[servicepub (RIP)]

My research has led me to understand the 1937 and 1939 purchases (delivered in 1938 by GM and 1940 by Ford respectively) but I have not yet uncovered a photo of the single pilot produced, in 1937, by Ford.
I wonder if this is it?

[Phil Waterman]

Hi All

I've seen this photo before in a higher resolution print, page 8 of Greggs Blueprint for Victory. From the background and staging of the photo I would say Ford archive. Bill had a lot of these photos at one time.

Also I have seen and printed hi-res versions of the Ford Pat 11 15CWT which was sitting with the same background. I have one version of the Pat 11 that I think Alex Giersch sent me 1500X985 Pixel versions, but I'm pretty sure I have seen an even high-res version will keep looking.

Cheers Phil

[Stew Robertson]

Many years ago when I was on a wee trip to Milton with Bill we found that same truck with a rear half track arrangement but no rear box or platform but was powered with a flattie
Not knowing if it was military or not and a lot of talk later we left it there to do some homework on ID ing what it was. we found no real information about it but went back a month or so later to see if we could acquire it but it was to late it had been squished!
After doing quite a bit of research later Bill had come to the conclusion that it was an early proto type for the military but That is the best that I can remember Weather there was any of that information went to Shilo or not I do not know