Wanted: 30cal. 1919 or parts to build one non functional

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Thanks Barry, it's silly but that is the law as it is here in Canada. I suppose banning lifelike 1:1 scale model kits of .357 revolvers they sold in the past might arguably make some sense. But not being able to get a soft metal or fiberglass Browning for a vehicle restoration is nuts.

The only additional thing that surprised me was the prohibition of airsoft that looks substantially like a real firearm. I can't argue with the wording above but do know a lot of airsoft owners who have accurate versions and think they are perfectly OK. Even Princess auto sells some accurate examples. I'm not sure what's going on in this regard because what I'm seeing isn't matching up with what you've posted.

[rob love]

WRT the airsoft, that is where the threshold of 366+ fps comes in. That is the speed that the firearms lab has determined can cause serious bodily harm, and is therefore legal to have without controls.

Re the transportation of replicas, note that the transportation requirements are actually greater for a replica than the requirements for a real gun. You can have a real rifle (non-restricted) in the front seat with you, the only requirement being that it is unloaded.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

WRT the airsoft, that is where the threshold of 366+ fps comes in. That is the speed that the firearms lab has determined can cause serious bodily harm, and is therefore legal to have without controls.

Re the transportation of replicas, note that the transportation requirements are actually greater for a replica than the requirements for a real gun. You can have a real rifle (non-restricted) in the front seat with you, the only requirement being that it is unloaded.

How then doe this make sense?

"Some airsoft guns, resembling with near precision an existing make and model of a firearm, are replica firearms and therefore prohibited devices."

It looks to me like airsoft is getting more and more into lifelike versions. Their website has wood and metal service rifles patterned exactly after things like Kar 98's, Stens and M1 carbines. But I also see that they have a page for Canada permitted items and these are not on it. It follows therefore that they are not legal here and the RCMP quote makes sense.

Sort of.

What is available in Canada are lifelike metal M-16's. So why is an airsoft M16 OK but not a Kar98?

[cletrac (RIP)]

If a person has a homemade lifelike replica, who's to say if he had it before 1998 or not? I'd say they were all built before 1998.

[Lynn Eades]

What am absolutely charming piece of legislation. When was common sense murdered in Canada? That's just sad. I doubt that your (below?) average politicians would understand those laws. How is the public supposed to follow them?
I took this little line from another forum;

"A democracy is two wolves and a sheep,voting on what's for supper".

It makes understanding how we arrived at where we are, easier.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

When was common sense murdered in Canada?

I'm going to expose my politics here...but it started was when we elected Pierre Trudeau as Prime Minister. If that's not bad enough we now have his idiot love child son as leader of the Liberal party with a fair chance of becoming our next leader. That's gonna hurt.

[Lynn Eades]

Sorry Bruce. My volley is directed more at the mass of badly worded (and thought out) laws that various governments have dumped on us.
Have you ever thought about how good those old (and more simple) law were?
Back then, I think the people drafting them, had a good grip of the language.
As far as home is concerned, I think there are far more laws on the books that have been put there since 1980, than existed before then.
Have a nice day Bruce

Derailed? What rails?

[Little Jo]

Hi Guys

As mentioned earlier I sought legal advice for my .30 Cal via my Lawyer to the SA Firearms Branch. The advice I received in writing, that I am OK in South Australia. However I should add that this is not the same case in every state of Australia as the law varies dramatically from state to state, as restorers will attest too when going to Corowa for the annual get together. The inference being that "If it looks like a gun, then it must be a gun".

A member of our club has decided to purchase a complete Resin .50 Cal from the USA from International Antique Weapons to mount on a pedestal on his Jeep. He sought advice from the SA Firearms Branch and was told they were not interested as it was a toy...!!! and he would not need a permit or register it as a replica. The only time police Firearms Branch would require to see and register a replica was if it had "Any moving parts". He also contacted Australian Customs and was told he could import it into SA without any problems as it was a toy. This was a bit of a surprise. However as I stated earlier, the legislation varies in every state of Australia. I would not dream of taking my .30 Cal outside of my state.

Cheers

Tony