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			Well stated Clive.....100% agreement with all you have said. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	The fellow in the RCN Navy outfit had a neat idea.......banquet crashing. I would hate to pass out at a Navy gathering though. You know the old joke: How does the Navy separate the men from the boys? With a crowbar.  | 
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 Back to reality - yes, permission is required by former members to wear mess dress at functions including weddings and mess dinners. My naval acquaintance recently went through this process, which turned out to be a fairly easy "evolution". Personally, since I no longer fit my mess dress (no, not a real dress), I won't wear it. Instead, I wear a dinner jacket (and pants - for those who would find it necessary to take the time to ask) and black tie. It would be fun to see a Military Policeman running in a retired senior officer for wearing his mess togs without authorization... 
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	RHC Why is it that when you have the $$, you don't have the time, and when you have the time you don't have the $$?  | 
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	Those who live by the sword will be shot by those of us who have progressed. - M38A1, 67-07800, ex LETE  | 
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			For those who continue to wear their CF/DEU Uniform to military events long after retirement or those who are considering to continue this practice.   Stop, take a good look at what Clive wrote, go and hang your old uniform in the closest and let it shrink with the other clothing.  Now head out and purchase a nice blazer and flannels.   On this legal civilian attire you can festoon it with all of bling acquired from a rewarding military career and wear it with honour to any military event.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 When I left, everything had to be turned back in. I now have 3 sets of Legion Uniforms, seasons .... (too much food) Much prefer it this way.  | 
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 Or you could join any one (or several) of many service organizations that have a uniform, most of which would welcome a new and enthusiastic member. The RCL, ANAVETS, RCAFA, etc. I've got great mileage out of my RCAFA uniform in the near 2 years that I've been out. And a black suit with a white tuxedo dress shirt, bow tie and miniature medals has done the trick for those rare formal events. My 2 cents, FWIW.  | 
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