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Old 01-01-13, 11:13
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Fellows,
For info I have attached the current PBR fact sheet on Bundy tubing.
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Thanks mate, I'll keep that info sheet for reference.

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Old 03-01-13, 11:20
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I've been checking through my manuals and photos, but cannot find a good photo of the points where the front and rear brake lines attach to chassis at the point where the flexible brake hoses start. I have bought more of the bundy tube, and was hoping to form the major lines this weekend. Problem is that I dont know where they end, or for that matter, what sort of bracket was used at the junction of metal lines to flexible brake hose, either front or rear. If anyone can point me to a diagram in Ford manual or parts books, I would be very grateful.

The brake line pieces I made last weekend are now with the local hydraulic shop, and I will pick them up tomorrow. When the larger pieces are formed they will be going to the same place for double flaring.
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Old 03-01-13, 20:31
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Default Chassis brake line to hose brackets

Hi Tony,

Will grab a few photos later today of the original brackets you are enquiring about and post them here. Up early due to a hot night here in Melbourne.

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Old 03-01-13, 21:50
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Thanks mate!

I don't envy you southern folks today. Or indeed for next few days apparently.

I hope none of you guys are at risk of bushfires?

We had 43c degrees about a week ago. Its a worry when even your candles start to melt in their holders.
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Old 03-01-13, 23:49
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Hi Tony,

No fires here yet thank God. Luckily we are in a more suburban area. I know of one Ford sidevalve V8 car collector who lost a beautiful huge collection in the 2009 Black Saturday fires. Heartbreaking for any car enthusiast.

Atached are the photos of the brackets that hold the hoses at the chassis.

Acording to my parts manual for the F15A they are numbered 01T 2073 for the rear and C11QF 2083 for the front.

Mine are devoid of brake lines. Long story, probably for another post but in short: a Rigid flaring tool I bought had a defect in the die block that put a small ridge on the back side of the flare. Was afraid it could cause leaking problems so have started re-doing all my brake lines. Rigid made good anyway and sent me a new die when I showed them a photo of the defect. Lifetime guarantees do mean lifetime for some companies.

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Old 04-01-13, 00:12
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I've been checking through my manuals and photos, but cannot find a good photo of the points where the front and rear brake lines attach to chassis at the point where the flexible brake hoses start. I have bought more of the bundy tube, and was hoping to form the major lines this weekend. Problem is that I dont know where they end, or for that matter, what sort of bracket was used at the junction of metal lines to flexible brake hose, either front or rear. If anyone can point me to a diagram in Ford manual or parts books, I would be very grateful.
Tony,

Maybe my thread F15A brake lines is of some help?

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Old 04-01-13, 00:37
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Hanno, you little treasure, thats exactly what I needed to see.

I think I can work from that info and the accompanying photos.

Merci zelfs zeer!
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Old 04-01-13, 06:59
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Your closeup photos will help me to manufacture the new brake line brackets, and certainly remove any doubt about which holes the brackets use. Thanks.

I was surprised how vague the diagrams in the manuals are. Beyond showing which sides the pipes go, which I already knew, they were a bit of a Chocolate Teapot really!

I think I have a bracket from an F15A that I can modify to suit the front. Hopefully there will be a piece of scrap steel laying around here soewhere that will become the rear one.

Have been having a bit of discussin with guy from MacsAuto regarding spring bolts for the rear suspension. I'll write more about that when I get home.
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Old 04-01-13, 15:20
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Default Ford run the lines on the left Chevs on the right

Hi Tony

One of the things I found interesting is that it appears that Ford and Chevy didn't agree on which side of the frame the brake lines should run. Wonder if this was just a carry over from civi construction practice.

Keep us posted with the photos. I'll comb through my photos to see if I've got any pictures of Ford chassis which might provide info on the routing.

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Old 04-01-13, 22:58
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Default Hydraulic brake line routing- chassis and diffs

Further to this discussion I have found it is very difficult over the years to find original hydraulic brake line on any CMP vehicles. If they are not completely removed then they are bent beyond recognition or jury rigged from whatever tubing was left lying around.

I attached some photos I took back in 1991 of what I think was an original set of front diff lines on a F15A based on their age, quality of fabrication and lack of damage. I used their design for fabricating my lines.

As for the rear lines I had no originals to go by. The lines shown came on a second truck I bought. The left side seems old and quite well made and could be original. The right side needed a bit of fairing to conform to the diff having been damaged at a few places.
In view of lack of any other info I have used their shape to fabricate the new rear diff lines. I am sure there are many other variations on the theme.

Also included is a recent photo of a chassis line leading to the front diff through a grommet on a paddock bomb F15A. Again whether it is original or not is debateable but the flare fitting tube joiner caught my eye. Maybe the front was damaged and a new tube spliced in or was it "factory" to make installing the "L" shape tubing through the chassis easier?

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