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21-12-12, 18:05
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Sometimes when I purchase a vehicle I find it exciting to know what it has been used for or even by whom or where. I think that this will be a mystery on this one.
Unfortunately, like a lot of old mvs that have been sitting so long and civilianized, it gets to a point where it is hardly worth the effort or time to resurrect it. I think this particular unit may be useful only as a parts machine; it was difficult to ascertain what the pros and cons were as the frame has been butchered, engine removed, 24 v changed to 12v etc. It does have several decent parts but the guys price does not match what I think its worth. What is scrap at today?
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21-12-12, 18:43
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I have yet to see a military jeep that is not worth more than scrap, although some of the severe rust cases you guys experience out your way may be the exception to that observation.
If one has been a long time Jeep nut, he will usually have multiple of all the 24V spares hidden away in crates, boxes and tote trays. Besides, after 60 years, much of the original wiring etc will need to be changed anyway. It really comes down to the frame and body tub, as well as if the engine is still good. All the rest is easily replaced.
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22-12-12, 04:33
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Hi Rob. I understand your sentiments, and usually those are my same thoughts.
When I went to look at this one, it was described as a garage stored jeep (every restorers dream aka barn find) that had been tucked away for the last 35 years. You can imagine my unbridled excitement, only to be disallusioned upon viewing it. It may have been stored for the last 35 years indoors but the life it must have endured previously tells another story. I always try to see the good in any diamond in the rough, to pick out the good points and to try and ignore the bad ones. Of course looking for a jeep, my first thoughts are to find a nice body, folloed by a decent frame, engine and dodads. Well, in this case lets start with the frame... -engine mounts and pitman arm mount torch cut out -bent shock mounts, front axle -broken springs all around -engine pulled, sitting in the cormer of garage with an apparently bad piston according to the owner -all 24v wiring and accesories gone and converted to 12v -the only body parts without major dents, rust and/or damage was the windshield frame and front grill -rusted out front floors and toolbox bottom and passenger rocker panel The good- -driver and pass seat, rear seat -good used gas tank, -data plates and a matching ownership misc small parts So, in a nutshel, frame and motor are scrap, body is negligible and most of the military dodads are gone. The only reason I asked about scrap pricing is that I would have a hard time believing there is more than $500 worth of useable spares plus the time and trouble to recover it and drag it home. Thoughts?
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22-12-12, 04:47
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Further to my post, can anyone tell me if it was common practice for US jeeps to have the number stamped on the frame rail or was this only a Canadian thing???
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22-12-12, 06:32
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Jeeez, and I have a spare frame sitting here too. And a spare body tub, although I think I will hold onto both until I get around to the restoration of the M38 that's out in the back lineup.
The frame stamping was a Canadian thing, although it will likely have been done to the US produced but Cdn owned Jeep as well. Hard to pin an exact date on when they were stamped....we could narrow it to between 1856 and 1967 I guess. I'll have to look a the next gasser 5 ton I see...they were early 60s vintage, and see if they were stamped as well.
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22-12-12, 09:12
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Thoughts?
Walk away and find a better one, they aren't that rare ... H.
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22-12-12, 16:28
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Thanks Hanno. I have a 1970 CDN3 that is almost finished and was looking for another project. Of course spares are nice to have, currently I have a couple 67 CDN2s sitting around. If I get enough spares I could build another one but always looking for the obviously hard to find items like a decent body.
One of my 67s has a really nice frame and I have a good running engine on my shop floor, I figured if this one had a good body at least I would have all the ingredients....  Does anyone know the serial number range for Canadian purchased 1953 A1s???? I think we bought around 700 units if memory serves.
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