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Old 11-12-12, 01:25
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Default Pilot Model Info

As mentioned, the 42 HUP was recovered a few years back at the world-famous "Chicken Ranch" (2009). The link takes you to the YouTube video I uploaded recently. It gives you a good idea of what the truck looked like before I began the tear down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cjduhFyTkA

In the video you can hear Brian chatting with Bob Carriere and Grant Bowker, who aided with the recovery.
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Old 11-12-12, 01:36
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Loking forward to see the overall progerss on this, I know you have been at it a while.
As a sidenote, I did watch the YouTube vid of the recovery. Bob, please stand well out of harms way next time you winch something or at least toss a chain over the winch line. Hard to do restorations when you are missing body parts....
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Old 11-12-12, 22:37
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Default Raising the Roof

We removed the Pilot Model's roof with the aim of determining what had to be done to repair it and to gain access to the support pillars. We noted that the front left and right edges of the roof differs from the production model in that they are more angular than the production roof forward edges. The sub-frame is very strudy made up of fairly robust steel channel.

The following photos show the extent of the damage to the roof:

1 - From the rear of the roof - the rounded edges are in fair shape but most of the edges where the roof meets the frame is rotted.
2 - Left front forward edge of the roof showing its unique shape - this I will preserve at all costs.
3 - The leading edge of the roof showing significant damage.
4 - Right front edge.
5 - Damage along the mid section.
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Old 11-12-12, 23:02
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Default More Roof Details

Some of the major differences between the Pilot Model and the production model included two piece side and rear walls, and the the use of separate support pillars between the lower portion of the walls and the roof.

Photos:
1 - Right rear of the truck showing roof and wall less front and middle pillars.
2 - Pax side door (with doghouse next to it) - note the glass roll up window.
3 - Rear pillars.
4 - Front (smaller) and mid (larger) support pillars.
5 - Left rear view showing the well constructed sub-frame
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Old 13-12-12, 21:12
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Default Doors

The Pilot model HUP differed from the production models in terms of doors and windows. The two front doors were narrower at the top than the later model cab 13 doors and incorporated roll up windows and door handles (as opposed to the rocker arm door opening devices). There are two small side windows that fit forward of the forward door frames.

The side doors too, had roll up windows. The two rear doors and the two side windows had sliding glass plates. The following photos show the robust construction materials used in the Pilot model.

Photos

1 - Pilot model pax side door.
2 -" Delmar Cobban RR 5 Mt Brydges" (close to London Ontario).
3 - Inside panel.
4 - Close up of panel.
5 - Upper window frame
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Old 13-12-12, 21:20
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Photos

1 - Earlier repair job - pop rivets and folded metal. It did the job a bit too well. Water got in but had no way out until it made a way out...

2 - The hidden damage.

3 - Interior detail - lots of surface rust but not too much damage to the interior workings and inner panel. The window regulator still worked well but the support (resting on the metal stop below the regulator) needs to be replaced.

4 - The outline resembles the cab 12 door inside profile.

5 - Comparison cab 12 and Pilot model doors.
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Old 14-12-12, 17:29
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Default Bob's trailer and winch

Just seeing you load the HUP out of the chicken barn - question for Bob....what make/specs of winch do you have on your trailer, Bob. Obviously it can handle that pretty heavy HUP easily. Is it just a 12v winch? What do they cost approx.? I have a hand winch which can handle the jeep but not the F8.

Good to see you all at Gracies by the way - worth driving from Kingston!
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