Iltis and M101. Ready for Coe Hill

[rob love]

Correct paint for a Cdn2 is green only. Camo paint was no longer applicable to the B vehicles from the time of the manufacture of these trailers. Funny how they made the tarps in cammo though.

There are a few corrections to Terry's trailer observations:

1: the M100 is a Canadian 1/4 ton trailer from the 1950s, recognizable by its rounded fenders and contemporary to the M38, M38A1 and M151;
2: the M101 is another Canadian made 3/4 ton (or similar capacity) trailer from the 1980s and onward, recognizable by its high "truck" stance and heavily reinforced box; and
3: the M416 is a 1/4 ton trailer for the Iltis, surplussed in the last few years and distinctive by its angular fenders and warning triangles on the rear panel.

1: The M100 was made by the US and Canada, and possibly other countries. Towards the end when we ordered fenders for them we were getting the anguilar M416 fenders, so a M100 could well have those.

2: The M101 came out in the 50s, and could be ID'd by the early M38A1 style brake handles. The M101a1 came out in the late 60s, early 70s, and had the M151A2 style brake handles. Then there was the MANAC, which came out as a companion for the 5/4 ton with the commercial rims and tires and surge brakes.

3: The M416 was never bought by Canada. It was strictly American and matched the M151 family.

4: The M101Cdn2 was the Iltis trailer which replaced the M100 family. Some well meaning desk in Ottawa gave it that nomenclature which was technically incorrect. As well, M-series numbers are not usually applied to non-US designed equipment. I mentioned to the trailer LCMM back when the Iltis trailer came in that it could lead to confusion when ordering parts, but his reply was that the 3/4 ton trailers were soon leaving service. And they did, a short decade later.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

Correct paint for a Cdn2 is green only. Camo paint was no longer applicable to the B vehicles from the time of the manufacture of these trailers. Funny how they made the tarps in cammo though.

According to Don Dingwall, there is a photo at DEW Engineering, where they made these, showing a line-up of the trailers, all in cam. Correct or not, I will keep it. The interior is just green (although the sun spot makes it lok like a sand-coloured cam was applied)

Cheers,
C

[rob love]

Originally Posted by servicepub

According to Don Dingwall, there is a photo at DEW Engineering, where they made these, showing a line-up of the trailers, all in cam. Correct or not, I will keep it. The interior is just green (although the sun spot makes it lok like a sand-coloured cam was applied)

Cheers,
C

That would be a new one on me, unless perhaps the paint scheme was changed part way through the production. I have only seen locally applied patterns in western Canada, and usually lacking the olive drab as that color was phased out in the 90s. Any chance you could get that photo from DEW posted?

I know there were some recalls early on for these trailers. The wheel bearings were one of them. These little trailers were neglected in regards to their servicing, especially since there was no recording of their maintenance by CFR, but rather it was by a group EMC for 1/4 ton trailers. As such, it was hard to know when they were repacked last. I got caught by that fact this summer when preparing to go to Huntsville for the convention, and a last minute check revealed a disintegrating bearing. We ended up leaving half a day late so I could get to town and buy bearings and seals.

Tip to trailer owners: you cannot judge the condition of the inner bearing by the outer bearing.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

Correct paint for a Cdn2 is green only. Camo paint was no longer applicable to the B vehicles from the time of the manufacture of these trailers. Funny how they made the tarps in cammo though.

There are a few corrections to Terry's trailer observations:


1: The M100 was made by the US and Canada, and possibly other countries. Towards the end when we ordered fenders for them we were getting the anguilar M416 fenders, so a M100 could well have those.

2: The M101 came out in the 50s, and could be ID'd by the early M38A1 style brake handles. The M101a1 came out in the late 60s, early 70s, and had the M151A2 style brake handles. Then there was the MANAC, which came out as a companion for the 5/4 ton with the commercial rims and tires and surge brakes.

3: The M416 was never bought by Canada. It was strictly American and matched the M151 family.

4: The M101Cdn2 was the Iltis trailer which replaced the M100 family. Some well meaning desk in Ottawa gave it that nomenclature which was technically incorrect. As well, M-series numbers are not usually applied to non-US designed equipment. I mentioned to the trailer LCMM back when the Iltis trailer came in that it could lead to confusion when ordering parts, but his reply was that the 3/4 ton trailers were soon leaving service. And they did, a short decade later.

What type of handbrake does the M101CDN2 use? Also, is it safe to say that the M101CDN2 is simply an M101 but with angular fenders?

C

[Ed Storey]

The M101CDN2 is Canada's version of the US M416 1/4 ton Trailer.

[rob love]

Ed's comparison to the M416 is somewhat close. The M101Cdn2 was a replacement for the M100. It has no lineage to the M101, which was a 3/4 ton trailer.

The body of the M101Cdn2 is unique. Similar to the stampings of the M100, but with 1/8 plate re-enforcing the corners, and square stock on the upper edge, as opposed to the round edges of the earlier 1/4 ton trailers.

The hitch is M416, with two heights that it could be set to.

The springs are just commercial, with plastic bushings. They have no comparison with any of the US military trailers. Same with the axles....purely commercial and Canadian.

Park brake handles are the late type, as used on M416 and on just about every SMP after the late 60s.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Thanks Rob.

Does anyone have a hi-res close-up photo of the trailer, either with or without an additional frame? This must be in CF use and not privately owned.
Please send to clive@servicepub.com. The photo will be used in an upcoming WOW booklet.

Thnx,
Clive