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Old 21-07-12, 07:30
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Yes, mine has a similar lip on all the exposed edges, although not quite as pronounced as the cab 12 pic.

I wonder why mine has two sets of holes for the clamp bolt...? (the crossed holes are from a rust repair)

BTW does anyone have a pattern for the cover box as seen in the assembly pic? Also it appears to have T-handled clamp nuts...?

And a question for Keith - does the FGT use the same battery box assy in the cab?
Hi Tony, Don't know why it has the extra set of holes. maybe a production (missteak), mistake, Can confirm though the one I have photos of show those holes also so it must be common. Also have a hold down for it, a Vintique repro which is the standard design for most sidevalve Fords and readily available from the various Flathead Ford parts suppliers.
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Old 21-07-12, 16:02
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Also have a hold down for it, a Vintique repro which is the standard design for most sidevalve Fords and readily available from the various Flathead Ford parts suppliers.
I suspect mine is repro too Jacques. It was advertised on ebay as NOS Ford CMP but it looks like repro to me.
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Old 21-07-12, 23:53
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Hi Tony, Don't know why it has the extra set of holes. maybe a production (missteak), mistake, Can confirm though the one I have photos of show those holes also so it must be common.
Just looking at Keith Webbs photo of a type 12 holder I notice the securing bolts are longer and riveted lower down on the side plate, about where the extra holes are on the two holders in our photos.

Just a theory but perhaps during production they decided to use shorter bolts to save steel or because of supply problems and moved the three rivet holes further up on the sides. Perhaps by then they had stamped out and pre-drilled hundreds of holders with the rivet holes for the longer bolts but no use throwing them away hence the double sets of holes.
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Old 22-07-12, 11:43
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Jacques,
Battery Box old 2.jpg
I flattened the old battery box this afternoon. Had time on my hands because the mains power went out for most of the day. Swines!
Anyhoo, got to making the template for a new one, and I will investigate this & hopefully buy the correct gauge steel sheet to commence the building.
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Here is what the template looks like. If you are interested, I can post it to you once I have scribbled onto the new steel sheet.
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I know it fits into place exactly, and all the holes line up. At least they do for the individual sides when laid on the base, which still has all the rivets sticking up. Best you check for yourself if you are wanting to use it.
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Do you have the correct battery securing bolts? If not, here is an indication of the sizing, in case you need to make them.

In the last photo you can see one of my original wing nuts. It is made of brass. I only have the one, unfortunately. Search begins for a second one. Guess it's brass so any acid doesn't affect it???
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Old 22-07-12, 13:28
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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the offer for the template. At this stage Tony Wheeler is dropping by in the next week or so with his holder for me to get measurements.
I don't have the bolts either but should be able to get enough info off Tony's.
Looks like they are a forging in the photos. If so, will be paying the local blacksmith a visit. If welded to the rivet plate it will be an easy fabrication.

You may be able to get reasonably close brass wingnuts from a ship's chandler/provedore. They look very similar in design to ones I have seen at sea over the years. Doubt the design has changed much in decades.
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Old 17-08-12, 07:45
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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the offer for the template. At this stage Tony Wheeler is dropping by in the next week or so with his holder for me to get measurements.
I don't have the bolts either but should be able to get enough info off Tony's.
Finally have completed the drawings of the battery holder. See attached. I have attached a seperate pdf of the Fabrication Notes to save clogging up the thread. Hope the drawings are readable otherwise will have to get the info out some other way. Hope they are of good use to other restorers.
Thanks again Ian, Tony and Tony.

Cheers,
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Old 17-08-12, 08:27
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The fuel filters that i ordered turned up on wedensday.
One problem I found on one was that the bottom cork washer was glued on off center causing the elementto sit in the housing "cocked " which will prevent the top washer from sealing, The other two are also slightly off center also. I will take this up with the dealer.
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Old 17-08-12, 08:44
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Is it another example of Chinese "craftsmanship" for a price or, god forbid, western workers who no longer care about making a good product?
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