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[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

it appears to have a folded top edge

Actually it may not, it could be just an artifact in the photo. All the straight lines appear to have been retouched.

[Tony Wheeler]

Here's a slightly higher res image. I'd say it's an artifact, not a rolled top edge. All the straight lines have this appearance from retouching.

[Keith Webb]

The edge is not rolled right over, but has a lip to avoid a sharp edge. It can be seen in this pic of the part on a cab 12.

[Private_collector]

What vehicle is that photo showing Keith?

Much better brackets than the ones on Ford CMP.

[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

The edge is not rolled right over, but has a lip to avoid a sharp edge.

Yes, mine has a similar lip on all the exposed edges, although not quite as pronounced as the cab 12 pic.

I wonder why mine has two sets of holes for the clamp bolt...? (the crossed holes are from a rust repair)

BTW does anyone have a pattern for the cover box as seen in the assembly pic? Also it appears to have T-handled clamp nuts...?

And a question for Keith - does the FGT use the same battery box assy in the cab?

[Tony Wheeler]

Another essential part is the battery hold down. This one is NOS off ebay a while back. Jacques, you may want to use this for a pattern if you don't have one already.

[Grant Bowker]

For data/drawings of one battery box variant see Phil Waterman's site http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/PostingPage3.html

[Keith Webb]

No the one in the cab is a full box with a hinged lid. It's mounted on a couple of risers.
The other battery box was I think on a Ford cab 11/12.

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

Yes, mine has a similar lip on all the exposed edges, although not quite as pronounced as the cab 12 pic.

I wonder why mine has two sets of holes for the clamp bolt...? (the crossed holes are from a rust repair)

BTW does anyone have a pattern for the cover box as seen in the assembly pic? Also it appears to have T-handled clamp nuts...?

And a question for Keith - does the FGT use the same battery box assy in the cab?

[Jacques Reed]

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

Yes, mine has a similar lip on all the exposed edges, although not quite as pronounced as the cab 12 pic.

I wonder why mine has two sets of holes for the clamp bolt...? (the crossed holes are from a rust repair)

BTW does anyone have a pattern for the cover box as seen in the assembly pic? Also it appears to have T-handled clamp nuts...?

And a question for Keith - does the FGT use the same battery box assy in the cab?

Hi Tony, Don't know why it has the extra set of holes. maybe a production (missteak), mistake, Can confirm though the one I have photos of show those holes also so it must be common. Also have a hold down for it, a Vintique repro which is the standard design for most sidevalve Fords and readily available from the various Flathead Ford parts suppliers.

[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Jacques Reed

Also have a hold down for it, a Vintique repro which is the standard design for most sidevalve Fords and readily available from the various Flathead Ford parts suppliers.

I suspect mine is repro too Jacques. It was advertised on ebay as NOS Ford CMP but it looks like repro to me.

[Jacques Reed]

Originally Posted by Jacques Reed

Hi Tony, Don't know why it has the extra set of holes. maybe a production (missteak), mistake, Can confirm though the one I have photos of show those holes also so it must be common.

Just looking at Keith Webbs photo of a type 12 holder I notice the securing bolts are longer and riveted lower down on the side plate, about where the extra holes are on the two holders in our photos.

Just a theory but perhaps during production they decided to use shorter bolts to save steel or because of supply problems and moved the three rivet holes further up on the sides. Perhaps by then they had stamped out and pre-drilled hundreds of holders with the rivet holes for the longer bolts but no use throwing them away hence the double sets of holes.

[Private_collector]

Jacques,
Battery Box old 2.jpg
I flattened the old battery box this afternoon. Had time on my hands because the mains power went out for most of the day. Swines!
Anyhoo, got to making the template for a new one, and I will investigate this & hopefully buy the correct gauge steel sheet to commence the building.
Battery Box template 1.jpg
Here is what the template looks like. If you are interested, I can post it to you once I have scribbled onto the new steel sheet.
Battery Box template 2.jpg
I know it fits into place exactly, and all the holes line up. At least they do for the individual sides when laid on the base, which still has all the rivets sticking up. Best you check for yourself if you are wanting to use it.
Battery Hold Down Bolts 1.jpg
Do you have the correct battery securing bolts? If not, here is an indication of the sizing, in case you need to make them.

In the last photo you can see one of my original wing nuts. It is made of brass. I only have the one, unfortunately. Search begins for a second one. Guess it's brass so any acid doesn't affect it???

[John Mackie]

Thank you all for the infiormation on fuel filters . I have checked it in my Fleetgaurd catologue and it all chechs out ok. I will buy some and be able to use these filters on my Jeep
Very usefull info.

[Grant Bowker]

I have now tried a Wix 33042 in the CMP housing. It fits nicely with friction on the central spigot to make a seal but still slides under the pressure of the spring.

Since the one filter fits, they are all listed as being suitable for NSN 2910-00-945-2318 at http://www.parttarget.com/2910-00-94...2318_GF12.html and some of the manufacturers' listings also confirm the cross reference I think all of the following should be interchangable: ArvinMeritor GF12, Ford/Motorcraft FG-11, GM 854425, Delco GF133, NAPA 3042 (sometimes FIL 3042), Fram CG5. Add from manufacturers' cross reference: Baldwin PF860, Luberfiner L8305F and Fleetguard FF132, White 871646, Hastings PF860/G338, Carquest 86042, WGB S224CP, Wartsila France F3229, Big A 95042 and possibly/probably others. The NSN listing seems to be mainly for aviation use, showing these filters used in B52, F4 Harrier and C17 among others.

I have also found that the spring that PeterDebella sells as "WO-A-1262 Spring, fuel filter strainer" fits the filter from my CMP housing.

When installing the Wix element, I found that I had to reduce the surface roughness of the central tube so that the filter would slide freely under spring pressure to make good gasket contact at the top of the element. I suspec that the roughness was the result of time, not a basic misfit as the original strainer element doesn't seem to fit differently before and after. Also worth noting, in addition to the gasket(s) mounted on the filter element the Wix came with the gasket between the housing halves (but not the one for the hollow bolt securing the 2 parts of the housing).

[Grant Bowker]

The install went nicely, but I have no idea about the relative efectiveness of the filter compared to the original strainer.

[Grant Bowker]

While doing the study of filter cross references I had made myself a table, attached in case it helps someone.