permit for road travel?

[Seatyger]

Hans and Peter are pretty much on the money with respect to the requirements (or lack thereof).

Due to the unique status of the Carrier it could be categorized more along the lines of a 'Road Building Machine' or 'Off Road' vehicle under their regulations as opposed to a Motor Vehicle under the Highway Traffic Act. You would be amazed at what some of the farmers out here get away with as an 'Implement of Husbandry'.

Insurance would be a necessary for your own protection, whether it comes under an offroad vehicle such as an ATV or business equipment like small construction companies and their Skid Steers, Landscaping machines etc. And Insurance Companies are a world unto themselves.

A Slow Moving Vehicle sign would also be mandatory. You could attach it magnetically so its non permanent. I would think the only thing that would raise an eyebrow would be the fact that it is a tracked machine.The Carrier doesn't have a heavy enough footprint to tear up the asphalt so it really shouldnt be a cause of concern.

And of course the Rules of the Road apply. The really sad part is the fact that because it sits in a great grey area of the Acts and Regulations it could be grossly misinterpreted by non vehicle/mechanical/historically inclined officials!

However if you really want to go untouched and unnoticed just put a couple fake tin can 'Tuner' exhaust tips on the back, a non functional whale tail spoiler on the back and neon lights illuminating the tracks. Throw a couple dumb assed big as a house speaker boxes in it and you can get away with pretty much whatever you want!

You do raise an interesting issue though, and if anyone has specific detailed questions I would be more than happy to make an official enquiry to the Ministry to get an answer from the Horse's mouth. It could take a while for a response though.......

Jim

[Stew Robertson]

Just register it under 194---- ford serial no what ever and go get a historical plate once you have the plate insurance will follow
Typical bullshit! what they don't know wont hurt them
If you are stopped show them the pap ers

[cletrac (RIP)]

Farm tractors in Saskatchewan don't need any of that. You just drive up the road and your farm insurance covers you!

[Bob Carriere]

Farmer down the road used a prime mover....huge 6 wheel drive with double tires at the back....10 wheeler.

Stripped the frame to bare power train, installed a hydraulic driven corn cutter head in front and a huge farm trailer sillage box on a dump mechanism at the back.... no roof open cab.....

His deal is..... be buys corn standing in the field late Fall or late Winter when farmers can't get in to their own field and harvests like a crook....... sues the stuff for beef fattening operation........ goes like hell on the road.... runs in muck like a pig and does not get stuck.

.....and he drives on the road..... extra wide...... just with a RED Slow vehicle triangle at the back....... no hassle.

Bob C

[greg anderson (RIP)]

If the municipality closes the road or street in accordance with proper procedure as for a parade one may conclude that the highway legislation no longer applies -consult your lawyer and remember that a lawyers advice is only worth what you pay for it

[Robin Craig]

I would like to wade in and set the record straight.

As Greg has pointed out a "parade" is just that, the road is closed etc.

Otherwise NO.

Put it on a trailer.

It is not an agricultural vehicle.

It is not a "road building or maintenance vehicle".

You have no place or right being on the road.

Registration of a vehicle in the province of Ontario is a priviledge not a god given right.

I don't want to sound harsh but them is the facts.

I personally have looked at the Highway Traffic Act 14 ways to Sunday as I have the opportunity to drive
some much more suited vehicles for the road, ones with full lighting and turn signals and horn etc AND rubber pads in the track
which means the track itself doesn't bear on the road, but alas no.

I have driven a carrier on the road in Ottawa but for a parade so them is the breaks.

Let me ask you another question, if you did decide to flout the law and attempt to drive it down the street and there was an accident (let us assume not your fault) what would you say then when asked for ownership and insurance by the nice Mr Plod?


R

[Ralph Volkert]

I dont suppose calling it an antique Ford snowmobile would help? Like an early Bombardier...