Tank ID

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Who can ID this tank? (source: http://www.cubra.nl/gerarddecroon/06.htm)

I have an idea, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Hanno

Hanno..It may be a Marmon Harrington or Vickers but one of those used in The Dutch East Indies..
Maybe the tracks are the give away..Very unusual but I have seen them on other Dutch tanks..

[Matthew Reid]

Looks to be a self propelled gun. And not a tank. Least not when the pic was taken.


Matthew

[tankbarrell]

It's an Archer. The hatch that the guy on the left is looking out of is a gearbox cover, both of which are open and can be seen in the upright position. Presumeably, it's a gutted hull.

[Jack Innes]

Not that it identifies the vehicle but here is the translated (sort of) article. It does give the time period & explains the situation of the fellows in the picture.


http://www.microsofttranslator.com/B...croon%2F06.htm


Jack

[Ed Storey]

If it is an Archer and this is the rear end, then were is the 17-Pdr Barrel? Also what is the item protruding from the middle?

The tracks do not look like Archer tracks.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by tankbarrell

It's an Archer. The hatch that the guy on the left is looking out of is a gearbox cover, both of which are open and can be seen in the upright position. Presumeably, it's a gutted hull.

Adrian...
Knowing all things tankie,as you do ..I am hesitant to offer a suggestion ,rather than a Valentine Archer(17 Pounder installed ..it is a Valentine with a 6 pounder..),at least ..as you say stripped out hull..

[tankbarrell]

It's clearly an Archer, you can see a muzzle of some sort though it's either not a 17 pr or it's been cut short. It's not long enough to be just minus its muzzle brake and no other gun would fit very well though it could be anything stuck in for a static.

The tracks look fine to me.

[Dave Page]

Hi Guys,
it is thye rear view of a Valentine as far as I can make out, with the rear louvred hatches open but I don't think it is an Archer, could be a 6lber in a regular turret.
Cheers,
Dave

[tankbarrell]

All Valentine gun tanks have gearbox/ radiator cover that are made up of channel sections and are essentially flat in section. Archer has a different style which are made from plate and are triangular in section. I suspect the solid rear plate is to act as a blast shield.

These are clearly visible here and I still say it's an Archer with a dummy or cut short gun.

The first pic is from the Archer service instruction book and the second is from the Valentine X and XI book.