Remote controlled expolosive Carriers.

[Philliphastings]

Actually Scout = rear armour on right hand side only (from the side appears identical to later carriers) Also the rear armour top 3/4 folds down on hinges on Scout.

My hunch is that there are one or two former scout hulls still in existence with th rear armour removed (really only two main panels plus the armoured engine cover and converted to what ever use. A cut down Scout would be difficult to differentiate from any other early carrier undercarriage to the casual observer.

That is probably the reason why they were all coverted and disappeared - a couple of plates off and you have yourself an instant tractor.

Cheers

Phill

[kevin powles]

Two more links i missed:

http://beute.narod.ru/Beutepanzer/uk...iversal-08.htm

http://beute.narod.ru/Beutepanzer/uk...iversal-10.htm

Kevin.

[Jordan Baker]

Bob, Just think how much stuff got left behind after Dieppe. That was just a raid with really only 1 armoured regiment taking vehicles ashore for 9hrs with plans to bring it all back. Now factor in a number of divisions being sent to Europe for the long haul and having to flee. Thats a tremendous amount of stuff being left behind. The Germans at this point had already incorporated many Czech vehicles into their units for combat in France. This was also why when the 1st Cnd Div arrived in England they were they most fully equipped body of troops available.

I remember seeing a book advertised years ago and it was all about German units in Russia that had been outfitted completly with British vehicles. If it was British they had it.

As was said in an earlier post, Chevy and Ford were making lots of things for the Germans too. Ever notice how similar an Opel Blitz drivetrain is to a Chevy CMP.

[Lynn Eades]

The Brits made Bren MkIs then MkII's. Then they built Scouts, and then the Universals. Some Universals went to Dunkirk, but not many and they were new then.
The Bren has sloping armour on the left side (and a box on the right guard)
The Scout has right side armour like a universal (and the box on the left side)
Phillip, I recon I could I.D the Scout, in a crowd. No ice scraper for a start. The main gunners front armour is specific to the Scout. There are lots of differences.

[Philliphastings]

Thanks Lynne - for a moment there I thought you had posted up the holy grail inthe form of Scout blueprints, however, as they say on Little Britain "Yeah but no but yeah" - that diagram shows a Bren armoured hood over the front gun apperture on the Scout, whereas it should be the flat pivoting armour plate instead.

Keep your eyes peeled though Lynn. I still feel there may be another Scout extant which just looks like a cut - down Universal .... Somewhere out there...

Cheers

Phill

[Lynn Eades]

The drawing came to me (back before the internet had properly arrived) as a simple explanation of the differences between the three types. The finer points are not catered for, as it is about the side armour.
The drawing credit is to Jeff Plowman, Author.
Phillip, The MkI Bren also had a flat plate mantlet