CMP Ford F60S

[Grant Bowker]

As far as I know, all CMP dump bodies were hydraulically powered from the PTO (the transfer case PTO, not the transmission). This means that it is unlikely that there were any dump trucks equipped with a winch. (for the same reason - transfer case PTO already used for the 2nd rear axle - I haven't seen any listings for C60-X with a winch) This makes sense on another level - the electrical system on all trucks of the era, not just CMPs, didn't have the capacity of modern trucks to support loads like winches or snow plows and electric motors also were larger, heavier and I think less efficient due to advances in magnet technology. I think they would have preferred hydraulic over electric for applications that might get wet.

[RichCam]

Guys,

Thanks for all of the commentary. The pictures were taken when it was parked outside last fall, it is now inside - safe and dry. For those of you that prefer not to read, I will try and video a quick walk around, crawl underneath and include shots of the cab with a close up of the ID plate. I will then post this video to YouTube with the title "F-60S Tipper".

We will restore the Tipper to its original specs. You have convinced me that I need to chase down a FAT to haul the UC on a trailer or to winch it out of the mud.

I will post the link as soon as the video is up.

Regards, Richard

[RichCam]

I am updating an old thread but the good news is that I am making rapid progress on the F60-S tipper. A local family has purchased this vehicle and they would like to use it on their large, rural property. Currently, it is not functional with the large wood box on the rear so I have decided to convert it into a LSVW. Since this CMP looks like it was originally fabricated for civilian purposes, I have elected to keep it civilian but add some military accessories. Let's called it a Hybrid which is much better than a gate guard or a parked truck in the back 40 that is slowly rotting away. The plan is to put the 2B1 metal box on the rear and pull the hydraulic lift back on the frame. In the space between the cab and the lift, I will add a spare tire carrier and a tool locker. Inside the cab, I need to add a passenger seat and I am going to add a roof hatch. If the box clears the rear of the frame, I will add a trailer hitch and the tow rings for the front bumper. The revised F-60S will be as authentic as possible in a "could have been" configuration. At the very least, it will be in operation and enjoyed as a working piece of history. As always, comments and opinions are welcome!

[RichCam]

With the wood box removed and the 2B1 box removed, I have been able to bring the F60-S inside and get it up on jacks. The old fuel has been drained from the tank and I will work my way around the truck, draining and replacing differential, transfer case, transmission, motor oil and anti-freeze fluids. This is a very early Cab13 according to the identification tags - they are mounted on the dog house, not on the window rail.

[RichCam]

Theoretically, if I can find the ID on the motor and it matches the ID number on the tag, then the serial number should be correct? Where would the ID be located on the motor? (Now that I can look for it with a crawler on a concrete floor)

[Jacques Reed]

Hi Rich,

The engine number is actually on the transmission bell housing stamped just above the inspection cover as in example in photo.
I believe the thinking at the time was an engine would likely be replaced but the transmission would more likely stay in a vehicle. This was to keep track of the vehicles identity more so than the motor.

Cheers,

[RichCam]

Jacques, thanks for reply, I will check the bell housing on Thursday morning when I get to the shop and I will post the result. Cheers

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Hi Rich,

Always good to see a CMP being brought back to life. Two remarks:
1) CMPs were never fabricated for civilian purposes. But they were sold as surplus after the war and used in large numbers by civilian operators both in Canada as well as in many countries in Europe.
2) The data plate dated Jan.1941 most likely came from an earlier F60S as the Cab 13 wasn’t in production then, IIRC.

If I lived near you I would come over and swap that 2B1 body for a civilian one. Keep us posted on your progress.

[RichCam]

Thanks Hanno, this truck has a couple of peculiarities that I don't have answers to.......yet. (the ID plate and the English made lift) Yes, if we lived closer together I could probably swing you a deal on two FGTs as well as drive over the 2B1 body..........I will keep everyone posted. I'm trying to get this project done in the January - February time frame as this is a quiet time of the year for my business. I'm not sure if I can catch up to Mr. Bergeron but I will try.