Found this carrier picture in a Old Book.

[RichardT10829]

ahh. i thought that number was perhaps part of the WD number usually painted on the battery box (but obscured) i could swear there is a 675 and possibly a T above those numbers... what about dress is it possible to date it roughly from issue kit ?

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by RichardT10829

ahh. i thought that number was perhaps part of the WD number usually painted on the battery box (but obscured) i could swear there is a 675 and possibly a T above those numbers... what about dress is it possible to date it roughly from issue kit ?

Hmmm ........... did not enlarge until you posted, and I think you are right, that is part of the census number. No signs on the back of the motorcycle unless the photo has been censored, although it is usually obvious when that was done. I would say, it is post-D-Day, so mid 1944 onwards.

That was my theory blown out of the water

[RichardT10829]

think we have started a game here Rich comon folks get yer bids in hehehehe

[shaun]

An interesting photo, the guy on the motor bike is a bit of a collector, he has a german K98 rifle and a german entrenching tool strapped to the bike. I would think it is Holland, that does look like a "T" number on the mudguard. Did MK1s have stacy towing attachments fitted or was it only MK2s ?

[Jim Parker]

Could they be Polish?

[Little Jo]

Hi Guys

I thought I would put my two cents worth in the pot and suggest it is definately Holland. I make this assumption due to the brick paved road, Bailey bridge over the canal, (bridges being destroyed) Style of house facade, the dead flat country side and the fact I had a warm fuzzy feeling having been born there. Ha Ha that will throw the cat amongst the pidgeons.

Cheers

Tony

[RichardT10829]

Tony, that was pretty much how i came to the assumption on Holland too there is a vid on youtube called "Carrier Test Drive" and at the end they go wizzing along a road which looks very much like the one in this pic....and i believe that footage was shot in Holland too. Shaun i think your right about the Stacey fitting but was too scared to shout up and say it for 100%

Michael i thought that was a pile of mud... your eyes are better than mine

EDIT: Civvie guy on the right, hands on hips looking up the road also appears to have some strange footwear too.

EDIT EDIT: Also is it just me or does the right hand track (drivers side) on the carrier appear to be leaning out over....worn maybe ?

[lynx42]

A very interesting photo.

The M3A1 White Scout car is also very interesting. It has had the roller removed and the roof height raised. The removal of the roller was quite common in Britain, as was the raised roof. In this style, the Scout car was used as a command or office.

Some had massive speakers on the roof and were used for propaganda purposes, calling on the germans to surrender etc.

Regards Rick

[RichardT10829]

right i am going to put my neck on the line and say the carrier is late production Mk1. when you zoom in there is no round bar on the top of the armour (or the curved tin in cases of canadian producion Mk2's) also on the drivers side rear track guard there is some luggage sat on the rations box tin tray, the two jerry cans on the left appear to be held on with the webbing straps used to hold the tarp, the tarp itself has been strapped onto the right of the battery box. the battery box (or bit i can see if it is the battery box) appears to be shorter and more central ie Mk1 rather than the elongated Mk2 style cammo net bag and storage bin.

On the rear mudguard i can see T6751- the last digit is unreadable
i await to be shot down kids

[shaun]

The first photo is starting to look like Kevins street !

Originally Posted by Michael R.

The refitting of Mk. I, Mk. I* to the Mk. II upgrade photo: does anyone have more similar to this, along with the source? No Stacey attachments in this picture, but when I see Mk. I fold down armour with Mk. II style split tubing and the relocated headlamp, it answers some questions.

On the carriers with the deep fording plates: the Mk. I* battery box has been removed, the bolt and cable holes plugged. The number range? Is that 163804?

The soldier is Private Hamilton, Highland Light Infantry, dated 19 May, 1944. Pretty hard to miss the large "67"


Finally another modified Mk. I* mounting a Browning 1919A4 .30 cal.