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The RAAF operated (ie registered as RAAF property) various numbers of the following Willys models: CJ3B CJ5 CJ6 FC170 Gladiator J2600 .... and at least ten vehicles stated as being 'M38A1'. The Army obtained two M38A1 for trials: described at the time as 'the current model 1/4 ton truck in US service.' The projected price per unit was A1500 pounds (which would include 12 months maintenance spares, I assume) Mike C |
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.... so on further consideration, I'd suggest that the '10' M38A1's said to be manufactured/assembled locally were all for the RAAF, and the two for the Army were direct imports under the ABCA inter-service agreement, and don't count in the local assembly total. Just a thought....
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Mike thanks for the great info..Here are a few photos of mine ...something abit different with the M38A1 was the tool stowage inside the jeep the reason they say was when they where on the outside they would get snagged and tools would be lost....the shovel is under the hood strange place for a shovel
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Nice M38A1 Mick: what's its chassis number? If its ex-Aust service, I may have a listing for it.
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Model Units Built CJ-3B & CJ-3BL (long) 1000 CJ-5 & CJ-6 4 Cyl 1560 6-226 2WD Station Wagon 6 6-226 4x4 Cab/Chassis & SW 1133 475 2WD Station Wagon 236 6-230 2WD Station Wagon 18 6-230 4 x 4 Station Wagon 36 6-230 Cab/Chassis 366 FJ3 Fleetvan 1 FC-150 Truck 1 FC-170 Truck 126 CJ-5 & CJ-6 Falcon 6 Cyl 604 J-Series Truck (photo at left) 527 M38A1 12 |
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I very strongly suspect the so called M38A1s tested by the Aust army were not.
The Aust testing pics lack features of a true M38A1, like the lifting loops on the front bumper and the correct body features. True M38A1 jeeps were 24volt electrics with waterproof/suppressed igniton system. Bell housing and dist could be pressurised by the exhaust system. True M38A1 had a full on M series dash board. The shovel was fitted up under the bonnet. The battery compartment was water proof and there was a big round cut out just behind the RHS front guard. The Aust CJ5s tested by the Aust army were most likely fitted locally with miltiary fittings, but no where near the M38A1 standard. Local CJ5/6s produced in Aust did have some features of military vehicles in the body work like the export open up windscreen and the battery compartment lid was welded fixed to the body work and a single battery fitted in the engine bay, a snorkel cut out was some times provided in the bonnet like the M38A1. Standard colour supplied was army green The M38A1 had different wheels in aust models. Aust produced CJ5/6s tended to have locally produced lucas generator, dist and starter. The gearbox was slightly different and the diffs/axles tended to be local Borg Warner items. The Brakes were slightly different, depending on exact year model and production . Aust tested jeeps were very most likely much different from the M38A1( the M38A1 being a better vehicle all round ) I have owned a Aussie CJ3B and still own a Aussie CJ6 which I have had for more than 27 years. Last edited by Ron King; 23-10-11 at 06:14. |
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It is worth noteing the driving position of aussie produced CJ series jeeps from the factory was very poor, as it was very low and not adjustable, which made seeing over the bonnet hard at times.
Note the extra tall cushions on mine to componsate and the seat has been moved back slightly. |
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You could well be right. Willys / Kaiser also sold their Jeep to Armies without the interference of the US military, for example the Netherlands (when they were fighting a colonial war with Indonesia), Israel and Switzerland. Pics below show the Swiss Army militarized CJ-5, which is nothing more than a CJ-5 painted olive drab and fited with a military type folding top, black-out lighting and some other minor modifications like a shovel fitted under the body. The Swiss even had a 24-volt radio version. ![]() These militarised CJ-5s are not to be confused with the M606A2 / A3, another militarised version of the CJ-5 manufactured for the US government for MDAP supply to friendly countries. ![]() Regards, Hanno
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The jeep in the photo from willamstown airbase sure looks like an M38A1 mainly because of the recessed headlights in the front grille it also has the lift rings but yes they could be fitted to a cj ..its hard to tell but the front springs seem to be fixed at the front (no front shackles)and its a shame there isnt a shot from the other side which would show the recessed recepticle if it is an M38A1 ...used for jump starting the jeep and for the jeep to jump start other vehciles...cause it is a pain to undo all the thumb screws to get to the batteries ..cheers mick
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