8 cwt pictures

[Mike K]

The lineage is there for all to see . The 1936 PU MCC eventually morphing into the Canadian C8 and F8 mishaps !

It would be interesting , which car of the three variants would win a race . The MCC PU had a good turn of speed . The F8 would be in it with a chance too. But the C8 would be plodding along, way behind the others . Cast iron just doesn't want to go up and down as fast as aluminium does .

The tilt on the ground , in the tent mode, had a clip on canvas apron . The tilt alone on its sticks would not afford any protection from a side wind or rain . The apron is rarely seen in use and would have been a pain to clip on . It's a clever concept though , and I have never seen it on any other car.

So who is driving their 8 cwt to Corowa this year ? Not me .

Mike

[Ian McCallum]

Originally Posted by Richard Notton

Some more?

I like the first photo in this series as it shows a WOC1. What publication is this photo from and do you have any more of WOC 1's?

In answer to Mike Kelly's question the WOC1 would win any race of PU's, closely followed by the Humber!

Ian

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

The tilt on the ground , in the tent mode, had a clip on canvas apron . The tilt alone on its sticks would not afford any protection from a side wind or rain . The apron is rarely seen in use and would have been a pain to clip on . It's a clever concept though , and I have never seen it on any other car.

The apron is all there Mike, just we couldn't be bothered to clip it on!! Has been done though and it does work.

Maybe before I leave I can cajole young Ballard to erect the thing properly, raise the ground mast and pose the 11 set. . . . . . . . . . . .

R.

Originally Posted by Ian McCallum

I like the first photo in this series as it shows a WOC1. What publication is this photo from and do you have any more of WOC 1's?

In answer to Mike Kelly's question the WOC1 would win any race of PU's, closely followed by the Humber!

Ian

Well, I'm not so sure.

While young Ballard was in the final throes of completing the 5 yr restoration of his PU there was an old boy visitor to the garage. He said he drove Morris PUs in the desert and they had 80mph out of them after wallying the velocity governor (2650rpm), certainly you'd need the desert open spaces as the steering is a tad vague at best.

It seemed unlikely so we set out to check. Assuming 4000rpm at the prop shaft and the diff ratio is well publicised, all that was left was the tape measure around the Olympic sand tyres and a bit of maths.

82.5mph IIRC.

R.

[Mike K]

A special PU event . It's probably closed, damn . I do like those old pre war newsreels filmed at Brooklands , showing hotted up cars flying over the barrier into the air , literally . 100mph Austin 7's ... And other rockets on wheels with almost nil safety devices on board .

Mike

[Ian McCallum]

I am afraid we will have to differ, Perhaps he had sand in his eyes, or the speedo was calibrated in kph? I still believe my trusty WOC1 has the thoroughbred qualities to take the honours!

Still appreciate details of the publication the WOC1 photo is in? I assume the location is Calais/Dunkirk during the evacuation?

[cletrac (RIP)]

I just came upon this picture of my uncle Cyril Pope during training with CABTC#2 in Ottawa in March 1942. The Cab 12 8 cwt has door number 42-1-22. It's the only picture I've seen of a 1B1 body with the canvas in place. I can't see anything to suggest Ford or Chev. Was there any difference in the door handles?

[Mike K]

David ,

It appears to be a Ford, going by the rear axle half-shafts .

Mike

[Paul Singleton]

Originally Posted by cletrac

I just came upon this picture of my uncle Cyril Pope during training with CABTC#2 in Ottawa in March 1942. The Cab 12 8 cwt has door number 42-1-22. It's the only picture I've seen of a 1B1 body with the canvas in place. I can't see anything to suggest Ford or Chev. Was there any difference in the door handles?

Yes, definately a Ford. I sold a Ford to David Moore with the same box. I am sure he would be interested in this picture.
Paul

[david moore]

David Pope (and Paul Singleton)
Yes, that F8 is just like the one that Paul sold me. Any chance of getting a good jpg copy by e-mail? Still working on my resto - a lot of delays getting the engine going. Hope to get that fixed shortly and my doors and cab base back from Barry. Then it will be work on the box and even trying to restore the original canvas.
I notice that "your" truck has the letter s on the door. Mine has TS in red paint on the window canvas - nay idea what that means?

[cletrac (RIP)]

I went to the rod and custom car show in Saskatoon on the weekend and was surprised to see this C8 on display. The old guy who owned it said his dad bought it new from army surplus just after the war and put a 150 bushel grain box on it plus a set of overload springs. The present owner built the box that's on it. He must have looked at a 1B1 then made it something like it. He also said he got five 13 inch tires out of California from a surplus place about 10 years ago but couldn't remember any details.
David Moore, I tried to send you that picture but your email refused it for some reason.

[Mike K]

The tyres may be the Israeli made ALLIANCE brand ..they have that wavy tread pattern.
Mike

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by cletrac

I went to the rod and custom car show in Saskatoon on the weekend and was surprised to see this C8 on display.

There's another picture of this C8 at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadia..._Pattern_truck

H.

[cletrac (RIP)]

I was looking through the Google Life magazine images and came across these Morris 8 cwt pix. I threw the third one in just because!

[KrisHamilton]

Originally Posted by cletrac

I just came upon this picture of my uncle Cyril Pope during training with CABTC#2 in Ottawa in March 1942. The Cab 12 8 cwt has door number 42-1-22. It's the only picture I've seen of a 1B1 body with the canvas in place. I can't see anything to suggest Ford or Chev. Was there any difference in the door handles?

what an amazing picture..... i go there every Sunday for the farmers market where that picture was taken

[David DeWeese]

Found this photo today on an old CD. Don't think it had been posted here yet.
No idea now where it originally came from.
Thanks, David

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

If it's an F8 then it could be an 8-cwt G/S under Demand S/M 2030 assembled in Dagenham under Contract 294/V/4699, and then presumably shipped out to the Mid-East.

[cletrac (RIP)]

It's a 1941 cab 12 F8 wireless with a 1A2 body. You can see the chore horse generator just behind the cab. That pic answers all the questions about whether the Cab 12s used the 1A2 body or not.

[Andrew Foulkes]

Originally Posted by David DeWeese

Found this photo today on an old CD. Don't think it had been posted here yet.
No idea now where it originally came from.
Thanks, David

Hi David

That marking on the side door is very interesting. Were there other pictures on the CD and was it commercially available?

Andrew

[David DeWeese]

Hi Andrew,
The CD was one of my own. I generally save all the interesting military vehicle photos I find on the net for future reference, so I'm sure it just came from a website.
Thanks, David

[Andrew Foulkes]

Originally Posted by David DeWeese

Hi Andrew,
The CD was one of my own. I generally save all the interesting military vehicle photos I find on the net for future reference, so I'm sure it just came from a website.
Thanks, David

Thanks David

I would be hard put to say where many of my pictures came from originally too.

Andrew

[David DeWeese]

Here's the link to the F8 photo I posted earlier:http://www.bchomesellers.com/ww2/index.htm
It's about half way down the page.
Thanks, David

[David DeWeese]

Hi,
Found these today while browsing around....don't think they had been posted on this thread yet. The second one looks like he has the negative reversed.

Link to site:http://www.societyofgentlemengamers....85f7092568a186

Thanks, David

[cletrac (RIP)]

The one image does have the negative reversed.
Both pictures look to be of the same truck.
Those tripods must be for spotting scopes or the like.
They aren't strong enough to mount a machine gun on.
They're definitely not legs for the tilt like the guys on that forum suggested.
They need to check this forum out so they can learn something.
Nice pictures David

[David DeWeese]

Hi,

Found this image on an old CD I made years ago. Don't think it has been posted yet....

Thanks, David

[Joe C]

I know this thread is old but I recently came across some 8-cwt FFW cab-11 photos and I thought I'd add them here.



A few others at: www.rcsigs.ca/index.php/CMP_Truck_8-cwt_Wireless

[Alex van de Wetering]

Joe,

Thanks for posting the link. Very interesting pictures....especially the one showing the chose horse generator, which seems to be mounted lower than on the factory pictures and also rotated 90 degrees!

Alex

[Mike K]

Nice pics. Would be nice to know where these pics were taken.

The antenna base with the rubber water shield cover and the D rods ? appears to be similar to the British setup. The wireless body looks like an early one with the early tailgate and the single tail light cut out

[Joe C]

The photos were taken in the UK by someone serving in E Section, 2nd Canadian Divisional Signals. Unfortunately there are no specific dates on any of them except for one taken in Nov 1940. Show the 8-cwt FFW but not in great detail.

http://www.rcsigs.ca/index.php/File:...er_24_1940.jpg

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Joe C

The photos were taken in the UK by someone serving in E Section, 2nd Canadian Divisional Signals. Unfortunately there are no specific dates on any of them except for one taken in Nov 1940. Show the 8-cwt FFW but not in great detail.

http://www.rcsigs.ca/index.php/File:...er_24_1940.jpg

hi Joe

OK that explains the British antenna bases. I bet there are UK No. 11 sets inside those trucks.

I was reading this on your web site:

"The 8-cwt was a lightweight 4x2 vehicle that didn't see much operational service"


The little Chev and Ford 8 cwt were widely used in North Africa and the Middle East. Photographs suggest that many 8 cwt vehicles served with British , Australian and NZ units. The enemy liked them as well.