MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Restoration Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-09-11, 12:22
Keith Webb's Avatar
Keith Webb Keith Webb is offline
Film maker, CMP addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HIGHTON VIC
Posts: 8,218
Default Interesting manual

Now to acquire all the bench testing gear, eh?

__________________
Film maker

42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains
42 FGT No9 (Aust)
42 F15
Keith Webb
Macleod, Victoria Australia
Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-09-11, 00:14
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,929
Default Bendix Book Looks Like A Real Find

It would be interesting to read the text to see just what they are testing for. I tried rebuilding one of these units by putting it back in the truck to test and that just is not really practical. I was working from the standard CMP MB-C2 manual. Set up to test it on the bench with a vacuum pump and it was a lot easier. Issues I ran in to were as follows:
  1. Leaks between the base plate and barrel
  2. Leak at the one way check valve
  3. No problem with the piston shaft
  4. No problem with the actuator valve
  5. No problem with main piston seal

Using the vacuum pump with and a ball valve I was able to test each component for leak down. As the number of leaks was narrowed down listening with a stethoscope became useful. When all the leaks are tracked down an minimized the brake booster will hold vacuum up to over night. Though even with a booster that will not hold charge once the engine is shut down the boost in braking power is significant.

Keeping the air that is going into the unit clean seems to be the biggest issue. Which means finding a replacement for the bellows boot, fortunately off road shock absorber boots can be found that are a very good size match.

But as I said it would be very interesting to hear what the major test the Bendix Book is recommending.

Cheers Phil
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Copy of Pat 12 Reasembly 027.jpg (49.3 KB, 51 views)
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-09-11, 04:13
gjamo's Avatar
gjamo gjamo is offline
Graeme Jamieson
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Williamstown Vic Australia
Posts: 599
Default On-line manual

Here is a pdf of a similar manual if anyone is interested.


http://www.tm9-801.com/tm9-1827b/tm9-1827b.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-09-11, 06:22
Bob Moseley (RIP)'s Avatar
Bob Moseley (RIP) Bob Moseley (RIP) is offline
RIP
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Posts: 2,620
Default Brake Booster

Hi Tony - Bower Brakes here in Adelaide rebuild these. I have had several done and I believe these guys are the only ones in the country that do them.

Bob
__________________
Chevrolet Blitz Half-Track Replica - Finished and Running
Ford F15 - unrestored
Ford F15A X 2 - unrestored
Website owner - salesmanbob.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-09-11, 16:48
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,929
Default MLU is a true collective resource

Thanks for posting the link to the Bendix Manual download. It just amazes me that you can a question about a resource and with in hours some body comes up with a resource.

The Bendix Manual looks like it will make interesting reading.

Cheers Phil
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-09-11, 11:26
Private_collector's Avatar
Private_collector Private_collector is offline
Tony Baker
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wide Bay, QLD, Australia.
Posts: 1,819
Default Todays Efforts - Part 1 of 2

I have started assembling the wheels to tyres.
P9110235.jpg P9110236.jpg
Only minor hitch was the 30 minutes it took to tighten the nuts, because I wanted to wrap each one in low tack tape before putting the spanner onto them, to minimise the damage to paint. Notice I didn't say 'eliminate'! I vaguely recall there used to be a rubberised compound you could buy for dipping tool handles. That stuff could possibly have coated the spanner or socket. If I can find the stuff I will try it.
P9110237.jpg
What color do I paint the ends of these wheel bolts? Are they red like the nuts, or green like the wheel?
P9110246.jpg P9110245.jpg
Rear shock finished. The other one is still soaking to allow easier disassembly.
__________________
Ford CMP, 115" WB,1942 (Under Restoration...still)
Medium sized, half fake, artillery piece project. (The 1/4 Pounder)

Last edited by Private_collector; 11-09-11 at 11:29. Reason: pics stuffed up!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-09-11, 12:19
Private_collector's Avatar
Private_collector Private_collector is offline
Tony Baker
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wide Bay, QLD, Australia.
Posts: 1,819
Default Todays Efforts - Part 2 of 2

Finished the first seat today, with help from new bolts, springs and eventual success getting sandblasting done. First time seat was blasted, the guys left it out in the rain, unprimed.


PB210032.JPG
This was the original state when I first saw them.
P8280145.jpg
Sound condition though.
P9110232.jpg P9110231.jpg
The seat canvases look quite good, but I can't seem to get all the wrinkles out of the back, no matter how much adjusting I do. The stuff in the seat runner tracks is actually grease. Once I slide the seat along mechanism a few times, I will remove excess.
P9110247.jpg
With daylight fading, I started pulling the brake vacuum booster apart. I had read the manual fairly lightly & promptly forgot it, so when I got the two parts of the vac chamber apart, the giant spring that jumped out at me came as somewhat of a surprise. It also prompted several very bad words which would make a bikie blush!!!. Great bloody way to end a weekend. Like being on the set of The Magic Roundabout.
__________________
Ford CMP, 115" WB,1942 (Under Restoration...still)
Medium sized, half fake, artillery piece project. (The 1/4 Pounder)

Last edited by Private_collector; 11-09-11 at 12:23. Reason: left something out
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-09-11, 12:31
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,878
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Private_collector View Post
What color do I paint the ends of these wheel bolts? Are they red like the nuts, or green
Erm, Tony, I really think you are doing a great job, but maybe you are taking it a little over the top? This is a military truck, which was assembled from parts, sometimes in various colours (green, sand, brown), and then spray painted a uniform shade at end of the line. Painting red wheel nuts or applying camouflage colours was done with spray guns or brushes by the military users with available paints. They were not too concerned about scratches on wheel nuts, or any other parts for that matter.

Keep up the good work, but don't overdo it. My €0,02 worth anyway.

Regards,
Hanno
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016