Need help: M151a2 CAF Europe 74-22375

[rob love]

From another thread on the M151A2s it was revealed that there are a block of numbers that start with 22350 to 22519, so your CFR falls into that block.

Your M151A2 looks very nice. Is it a reweld or uncut?

[Gaspare]

Here I am,
Thank you for the further informations,

I add the following serials:
Dashboard serial,
Engine serial,
Ziebart tag serial.....

I can guess that the engine is not the original one, same concern about the windshield but I hope the dash is the original one,
for the moment i didn't find more codes or Tac Signs.

These M151a2 were cut and welded taking care of rejoining the matching bumpers serials from Perini of Riva del Garda.

I have reports that the non matching numbers have been sold painted USARMY olive green or USARMY/USMC camo colors,
other matching serials have been repainted from the owners as USA M151 being difficult to find original CDN uniforms.


I am proud to have a CDN one!

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by Gaspare

Here I am,
Thank you for the further informations,

I add the following serials:
Dashboard serial,
Engine serial,
Ziebart tag serial.....

I can guess that the engine is not the original one, same concern about the windshield but I hope the dash is the original one,
for the moment i didn't find more codes or Tac Signs.

These M151a2 were cut and welded taking care of rejoining the matching bumpers serials from Perini of Riva del Garda.

I have reports that the non matching numbers have been sold painted USARMY olive green or USARMY/USMC camo colors,
other matching serials have been repainted from the owners as USA M151 being difficult to find original CDN uniforms.


I am proud to have a CDN one!

There you go... The Serial Number is in good order and in the right range to be original. This is the number I can run to verify the original CFR and gather the unit history.

The Ziebart Decal is also a lucky thing to have. In fact, if you wouldn't mind, could you snap a photo that shows the entire tag? I'm debating getting a decal made up for mine but have been unable to find a decent one to copy.

Thanks for posting up the photos.

Scotty

[Gaspare]

Originally Posted by armybuck041

There you go... The Serial Number is in good order and in the right range to be original. This is the number I can run to verify the original CFR and gather the unit history.

The Ziebart Decal is also a lucky thing to have. In fact, if you wouldn't mind, could you snap a photo that shows the entire tag? I'm debating getting a decal made up for mine but have been unable to find a decent one to copy.

Thanks for posting up the photos.

Scotty

Thank you Scotty i hope to find out more about my baby,
the Ziebart certification is not a decal but a label, I'll shot and post some pics for you tomorrow (actually i am at work 'till 11pm)

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Gaspare

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Ziebart tag serial

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In a damp climate, rust is a big concern. Ziebart is a company that got started spraying oily sticky rustproofing compound on cars and trucks. My grandfather's garage would undercoat a car for a few hundred dollars in the 1960's, which easily extended the life of the body by 5 or 6 years. (But his top mechanics also died of cancer from the compounds or the cleaners .) I don't know what the Forces did to Jeeps for undercoating, but likely each one went through the local Ziebart shop for spraying at some stage in the maintenance cycle.

[rob love]

The Ziebart was applied to the M151A2s around 1980. I know this because some of the last ones they did were the training aids in the school. Made for messy training....that stuff did not wash off with soap. Solvent worked pretty good though.

Scotty: I may be able to pull a Ziebart decal off one of my many spare windshields when I get a chance. It won't be pristine, but it should be a good sample.

I think the unstucker plates are the same as the Iltis. It was just the nuts that were different to adapt to the different hubs. I have spare plates, and likely the drums too, but I may not have many spare nuts for them, as I need them to modify for my 5/4 ton.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by rob love

Scotty: I may be able to pull a Ziebart decal off one of my many spare windshields when I get a chance. It won't be pristine, but it should be a good sample.
I think the unstucker plates are the same as the Iltis. It was just the nuts that were different to adapt to the different hubs. I have spare plates, and likely the drums too, but I may not have many spare nuts for them, as I need them to modify for my 5/4 ton.

Rob, do you drink Scotch?

[Gaspare]

Hallo again,
here are some Ziebart tag pics,
do you prefer measures in centimeters or inches?

[Ed Storey]

While on the boardwalk in KAF in May, I saw Rob drink a milkshake. It might have been butterscotch....

ED

[Gaspare]

Originally Posted by rob love

From another thread on the M151A2s it was revealed that there are a block of numbers that start with 22350 to 22519, so your CFR falls into that block.

Your M151A2 looks very nice. Is it a reweld or uncut?

Thank you very much Rob, it is a reweld one.