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Old 06-05-11, 00:23
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I was trading messages with the seller since I also had some interest in the vehicle. But in four days, he has yet to answer any specific questions or provide any other photos. Several things looked suspect to me even though it has a nice overall presentation as it sits.

Most of my questions were basic so I'm baffled as to why he replies quickly, but not with any answers. Things like is it still original 6volt or changed over to 12volt. Is it the original engine, a wartime period type replacement or a modern engine. etc, etc.

I've given up now and won't pursue it. Still interested in seeing photos though
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Old 06-05-11, 01:25
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Old 06-05-11, 03:37
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I was trading messages with the seller since I also had some interest in the vehicle. But in four days, he has yet to answer any specific questions or provide any other photos. Several things looked suspect to me even though it has a nice overall presentation as it sits.

Most of my questions were basic so I'm baffled as to why he replies quickly, but not with any answers. Things like is it still original 6volt or changed over to 12volt. Is it the original engine, a wartime period type replacement or a modern engine. etc, etc.

I've given up now and won't pursue it. Still interested in seeing photos though
David

These days there are lots of photo, serial number and "details" collectors out there who make detailed enquiries, string a seller along but don't have the ready funds or wherewithal to make a purchase. What is often called a "tyre kicker".
It is such a problem in Europe and the UK that most sellers refuse to communicate by email and require a phone call, even if it is an international one from an enquirer. If you don't believe me, have a good look through Milweb. This is particularly so with dealers, who often come across as abrupt and rude and uninterested in a sale. One major dealer I know totally ignores re-enactors as in his words "they are full on until it comes time to pay".

A very quick way to get a seller off side is to put details on a public forum such as this. The old saw "gentlemen do not discuss other gentlemen's business in public" comes to mind.

As someone who has purchased a vehicle from another country, it is no small undertaking, I would think you would need to demonstrate that you have the wherewithal to do so before most sellers would take you seriously.

Lastly, since when has 4 days been an unconscionable time span for a reply. Have you considered he may not be near a computer during the week?

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Old 06-05-11, 04:15
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Hey Doug,

Points well taken. But I never said there was no reply in four days. I got prompt replies to every message I posted (which I thought I mentioned in my previous post). But sadly no answers to the questions.

I don't want to bash this as it is done for me now. But timely reply to inquires would seem important as this vehicle was simultaneously posted for sale on several forums and on eBay.

I was communicating my requests for information to the seller directly and privately. I have nine replies from him but no details. I've purchased and restored a few vehicles and imported items from numerous countries including Australia so know the ropes. And the seller was aware of this because he saw photos of several of my restorations including one recently recovered from Australia.

I know the seller monitors this forum as he has posted to me since I put the previous message on this thread. And I've no doubt he has many friends watching his back. All well and good. I've no issue with him and wish him all the best in selling the Lynx and having the money to buy the vehicle he and I discussed which he wants to get.

Guess we'll see if it sells tomorrow when the eBay listing closes. All I can say for sure is it won't be me buying it.
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Old 06-05-11, 08:44
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Hey Doug,

Points well taken. But I never said there was no reply in four days. I got prompt replies to every message I posted (which I thought I mentioned in my previous post). But sadly no answers to the questions.
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David

I stand corrected, reading your post again, you do say no details rather than no reply.

International purchases are never easy.

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Old 06-05-11, 11:43
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I was communicating my requests for information to the seller directly and privately. I have nine replies from him but no details. I've purchased and restored a few vehicles and imported items from numerous countries including Australia so know the ropes. And the seller was aware of this because he saw photos of several of my restorations including one recently recovered from Australia.

I know the seller monitors this forum ......
I see the listing price has dropped, and there is now a comment for a certain DG from TX!
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Old 06-05-11, 12:28
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Please note that if people are going to use this forum to start throwing mud at each other I will close this thread.

Thank you for your consideration!

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Old 12-05-11, 03:05
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Didn't the Mk I Lynx have a folding metal roof and the Mk II simply employed a canvas cover? The photo in the eBay ad Colin posted shows a metal cover on the Lynx. Is this really a Mk I, or did the Australians modify the Mk II locally to fit a folding metal top?
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Old 21-05-11, 12:11
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Hey this is 5 minuites up the road from me!!..... small world. If anyone is still interested happy to check it out for you if you are interested & a long way away...

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Old 06-05-11, 10:40
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These days there are lots of photo, serial number and "details" collectors out there who make detailed enquiries, string a seller along but don't have the ready funds or wherewithal to make a purchase. What is often called a "tyre kicker".
Indeed international sales can be somewhat difficult, the langauge barrier being the first hurdle to take. These days sellers often state "for the serious collector only please" or something to that effect. Well, this sentence can be interpreted in various ways - let's look it up in the dictionary:

se·ri·ous
1. of, showing, or characterized by deep thought.
2. of grave or somber disposition, character, or manner: a serious occasion; a serious man.
3. being in earnest; sincere; not trifling: His interest was serious.

col·lec·tor
1. a person or thing that collects.
2. a person employed to collect debts, duties, taxes, etc.
3. a person who collects books, paintings, stamps, shells, etc., especially as a hobby.

So a "serious collector" could be someone who collects pictures or vehicle details as a hobby, but also a tax man who is not making jokes about the amount of money he is coming to collect! Probably beter to be frank and state "anyone interested in the item better bring a huge pile of cash"!

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Old 06-05-11, 10:54
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Back to subject: here's hoping this Lynx finds a good new home. See An Australian Ford Lynx restoration for more pics. Can't vouch for the details, but at least it was restored from an uncut and undamaged hull.

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